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Ok, the sun has run away and it continues to rain. I am stuck in the house with nothing to do, except may stir up a little debate.

My wife and I were watching the news. They reported that a boat capsized and many of the passengers were killed by sharks. They went on to point out that most of the survivors were men. The stronger men made it safely to shore while the weaker women perished.

My wife thought that the men should have help save the women. I pointed out (it was raining yesterday too) that women should have no expectation of being helped in that type of situation. While in years past, men would be quite willing to sacrifice themselves to same a woman, but women fought hard for equality and with it comes certain disadvantages.

One of which is that it is "each man for themselves" in times of disaster. Now of course, many men will put women first, but that is a choice and women should have no expectation of it nor should they complain when it doesn't happen.

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You've certainly come up with an interesting rainy day topic.

I agree with holding up your end in equality. The fact is. No one is equal and there are times when we could, all of us, use a little help and consideration.

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Just proves that Men are Bad Luck, The girls should have went boating alone and there would be no problems neener! neener! neener!

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fuzzybear wrote:
You've certainly come up with an interesting rainy day topic.

I agree with holding up your end in equality. The fact is. No one is equal and there are times when we could, all of us, use a little help and consideration.

That is a point I made to my wife. I will help someone regardless of gender.

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Hammer1 wrote:
Just proves that Men are Bad Luck, The girls should have went boating alone and there would be no problems neener! neener! neener!

Big smile Hammerette Big smile

Well, uh, hmmm....oh heck forget it, you're probably right Brick Wall,)

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This world has bred a couple of generations now that just "want it all". I think everyone should chase a dream or work towards a goal. But, one certainty I've learned in life is that NO ONE can have it all. You gotta sacrifice one thing for another. Life is full of trade-offs and comprimises. That goes for everything, family, career, money, equality, and so on. You gotta give up something.

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Boy CVC - you opened a can of worms!

I believe there should be equal rights for men & women. I'm talking about basic rights, like voting, etc., However when it comes to "equality" in a relationship, I'm not sure that can ever be 100% equal. In most relationships we'd like to think that all will be equal, but its not. We all assume our roles and hope it somehow equals out in the end.

I'm not sure any man should HAVE to sacrifice himself for a woman, however most of us are willing to sacrifice ourselves for someone we love, whether it be for a woman, man or child. So I would say a lot depends on the relationship. Would my husband sacrifice himself for a stranger (man or woman), probably not? Would he sacrifice himself for me or one of our children? Knowing him, I would say definitely yes.

Now about the disaster you described where more men than women survived, without knowing the details, its hard to know why it was lopsided. Did more men have life jackets? Did less women know how to swim? Did the women have children they were trying to rescue and protect? Most women will instinctively protect their children, regardless of whether it puts their own life at risk. Its not fair to immediately assume that the women were weaker.

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While its nice to discuss how norms have changed over the years, personally I don't think chivalry has anything to do with equality.

Then again, if I find myself sinking in the north Atlantic with rosie, jane fonda, or similar figures, I doubt I'd be dawning the white knight garb either.... I would probably play them some taps though.

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I'm sorry, but now I have this image of Rosie on a ship that sinks, fighting so hard to make it to shore only to have a group of animal activists keep pushing her back into the ocean Evil!

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Then again, if I find myself sinking in the north Atlantic with rosie, jane fonda, or similar figures, I doubt I'd be dawning the white knight garb either.... I would probably play them some taps though.

If I found myself sinking in the North Alantic and Rosie and Jane were with me and the only thing around was a deserted island, I'd save Jane! Evil!

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That North Atlantic is very cold water gentlemen . The nearest island is Newfoundland. Do yourself a favor and go moose hunting. The girls will just laugh when you get out of the water Yes Yes Yes

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