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BunnySlayer wrote:
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Cheney shot an Attorney in the face.
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Biden shot no attorney's

I'm trying to figure this out. Which one was a bad thing ? Ah! I think I got it. It's only bad to shoot a lawyer if it's by accident. That's poor gun handling!

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Cheney

he was a supporter of the U.S. involvement in the war but did not serve in the military

That's what's known as a chicken hawk, same as Bush II, they love wars, just don't like personaly fighting them.

Of course if you want to compare VPs you could always look at the one before Cheney. Against the war, father very publicly against the war, but served in Vietnam none the less as it was his duty as a US citizen. Wasn't in a combat unit but did carry a rifle. Said if he dodged the draft someone else would have to go in his place, and that wouldn't be right.

But what we were talking about was Cheney's lack of class, cussing a senator on the floor of the senate, saying bad things on TV after being out of office for 2 months. Lack of gun safety, probably drunk while hunting, I mean he did get two DWIs, and he still drinks. That lawyer he shot was a Republican lawyer, and I'd make jokes, but I don't think it's funny to shoot someone in the face. Cheney probably shouldn't be handling firearms.

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civetcat wrote:
Cheney

he was a supporter of the U.S. involvement in the war but did not serve in the military

That's what's known as a chicken hawk, same as Bush II, they love wars, just don't like personaly fighting them.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think Obama has served in the military and he is ramping up the war in Afghanastan so does that make him a chicken hawk too?

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No.

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The term was first applied to vocal supporters of military action who were perceived to have used family connections or college deferments to avoid serving in previous wars, particularly the Vietnam War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk_(politics)

Quite a mess he got left none the less. Two wars and one with a signed surrender already in place with timelines.

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So now you're admitting it's a surrender? That's not Cheney's doing -- the Democrats engineered that.

And by the way, there's only one war going on with two fronts. By your definition, WWII would have been at least three wars -- Western Europe, Southern Europe, and the Pacific. If you define "wars" by the number of countries you're engaged with, it would be a lot more than that.

I know it's technical, but if you're going to talk war or military strategy, you ought to get the basics right.

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civetcat wrote:
Of course if you want to compare VPs you could always look at the one before Cheney. .

I was not intent on comparing VP's, only to show how you are so biased and full of crap that you will lash out at one man and then ignore another with the exact same record. I have exposed you for what you are.
How you like that.
What youz gotz to sez bout that? Cry

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But what we were talking about was Cheney's lack of class, cussing a senator on the floor of the senate, saying bad things on TV after being out of office for 2 months.

No, WE were not talking about Cheney, YOU were.
He isn't VP anymore, Biden is, get over it.

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That lawyer he shot was a Republican lawyer, and I'd make jokes, but I don't think it's funny to shoot someone in the face.

I don't particularly care what you think is funny. Sick

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Yeah, Cheney's hunting partner and Monica Lewinsky both had something in common. However, neither has anything whatsoever to do with the current administration's lack of class.

Back on topic -- here's another example of low class: during a visit to the White House, the British Prime minister gave Obama well thought out gifts, including a pen set made from the timbers of a former slaver that was a sister ship to the Resolute -- which provided wood for the oval office desk. In return, Obama gave the PM a set of DVDs of American movies -- not even Blu-Ray. And to make it even better, they were Region 1 DVDs -- won't play in Europe. Maybe next time he'll give the PM and his wife a $25 gift certificate to Golden Corral.

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Really - I missed that about the movies. I am embarassed by those gifts.

As bad as Clinton taking the wrong button to Russia.

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At least he didn't puke on him as Bush Sr did in China !!! Laugh

Obama said that he was exhausted from working on the problems facing the nation and missed that the format was incompatible.
Thats his story and he's sticking to it.

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Back on topic. The point is our politicians (all parties here) need to conduct themselves with proper decorum and civility. They need to set an example. When they don't they should be properly chastised by the press and public so it doesn't happen again. Period. No matter who does it it's wrong, embarassing and shows a lack of intelligence and maturity. If you can't control your mouth why should we think you can control the country?

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