9 replies [Last post]
Offline
Moderator
Location: Florida,USA
Joined: 08/21/2003
Posts: 1566
Election results statistics, interesting

Interesting Statistics , If they are true.
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law,
St. Paul, Minnesota, points out facts of 2008 Presidential election:

Number of States won by:
Democrats: 19
Republicans: 29

Square miles of land won by:
Democrats: 580,000 Republicans: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by:
Democrats: 127 million
Republicans: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Democrats: 13.2
Republicans: 2.1

Professor Olson adds:

"In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won by Republicans
was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in
government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare.

Professor Olson believes the United States is now somewhere
between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's
definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's
population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years

--------------------

PreviewAttachmentSize
image.jpg
image.jpg54.28 KB
bitmasher's picture
Offline
Moderator
Location: Colorado
Joined: 02/27/2002
Posts: 2973
Election results statistics, interesting

While there are elements of truth (urban vs rural election results). This email is a hoax and untrue.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/whats_the_deal_with_prof_joseph_ol...

Offline
Moderator
Location: Florida,USA
Joined: 08/21/2003
Posts: 1566
Election results statistics, interesting
bitmasher wrote:
While there are elements of truth (urban vs rural election results). This email is a hoax and untrue.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/whats_the_deal_with_prof_joseph_olsons.html

"Olson: There is an e-mail floating around the internet dealing with the 2008 Obama/McCain election and the 2000 Bush/Gore election, remarks of a Scottish philosopher named Alexander Tyler, etc. Part of it is attributed to me. It is entirely BOGUS as to my authorship. I've been trying to kill it since December 2000"

My apologies to Mr. Olson for propagating this hoax that I recieved via email also.
Thanks for posting the link bitmasher.

expatriate's picture
Offline
Location: Arizona
Joined: 10/26/2002
Posts: 3207
Election results statistics, interesting

Well, they at least got Alaska right. That's one element of truth. But thanks for straightening it out.

Offline
Joined: 07/29/2008
Posts: 723
Election results statistics, interesting

Hawaii is correct too!

I sometimes run across things in the news that sound too good to be true. Even mainstream sources sometimes get things totaly wrong.

Offline
Moderator
Location: Florida,USA
Joined: 08/21/2003
Posts: 1566
Election results statistics, interesting
civetcat wrote:
Hawaii is correct too!

I sometimes run across things in the news that sound too good to be true. Even mainstream sources sometimes get things totaly wrong.

I usually check things out before I post them but didn't on this one.
I was a Goober on this, sorry about that folks.

cowgal's picture
Offline
Moderator
Location: Colorado
Joined: 03/10/2002
Posts: 1787
Election results statistics, interesting

Olson may not have written this, but I'm guessing if you research the numbers, they sound accurate. The map is accurate.

Offline
Joined: 07/29/2008
Posts: 723
Election results statistics, interesting
Quote:
I'm guessing if you research the numbers, they sound accurate

Therein lies the problem. These kinds of things reinforce a belief we already have. If you follow bitmaster's links you'll find all the statistics are made up.

But I certainly don't fault Jtapia for falling for it. Look what very famous journalists making millions of dollars repeat as gospel.

That's why I get so obsessed with accuracy in articles and even editorials. When respectable people or sources mislead it can be a big deal. Wars happen. Markets crash.

cowgal's picture
Offline
Moderator
Location: Colorado
Joined: 03/10/2002
Posts: 1787
Election results statistics, interesting

And if you read the factcheck article to the end, you'll see that Olson himself had forwarded on the email, indicating that he thought it was true or accurate, even though he didn't write it.

The map is accurate.

expatriate's picture
Offline
Location: Arizona
Joined: 10/26/2002
Posts: 3207
Election results statistics, interesting

If nothing else, the debate illustrates what people in states like Minnesota and Colorado already know -- high-population urban centers are dominating politics to the detriment of rural areas. California has a similar problem when it comes to mountain lions -- urban bleeding hearts with nothing to lose impose laws that put rural populations at risk. Sportsmen's issues are generally at the forefront as urban centers dominate rural areas.

Yes, this is a fact of life associated with a government driven by majority rule. But it also reflects the tyranny of the masses deToqueville warned about.

Related Forum Threads You Might Like

ThreadThread StarterRepliesLast Updated
Obama lays plans to kill expectations after winning electioncowgal1511/04/2008 19:44 pm
Colorado leftover licensesexbiologist1307/28/2012 08:26 am
Colorado harvest statsexbiologist1203/13/2012 08:20 am
Presidental CandidateJTapia504/25/2012 12:37 pm
Study: Coverage of McCain vastly negativebitmasher2210/31/2008 18:19 pm