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Well I'm not helping or agreeing with PETA by anymeans. I believe: TO EACH HIS/HER OWN. But at the end of the day on a high fence hunt can you really feel like you have accomplished the same thing as a free roaming open land hunt?? I just don't think that I could. sad

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well dont really want to git into a debate over highfence i hunt and guide on both fenced and non-fenced properties the point of this little story is that once peta and hsus divids and turns us against one another we will all fall like dominoes sad btw if 0707 is your b-day its mine too Big smile

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Yeah I get what your saying about the dominoes. 0707 isn't my birthday but it is a day I'll remember but that's another story. Silenced

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Thats Bullsh*t I think that hunting From inside Fenced land isn't hunting its Just Not sportsman like And NO one I know or associate with would ever consider that. Not that I agree with ANy Anti hunting group, but i dont agree with that.
How can you feel like you have accomplished anything by hunting a trapped animal.

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so by what your saying 270 is that you'd sit idely by while that form of hunting was/is banned just because you dont hunt that way and it aint really hunting to you and your freinds so it dont really matter ehh eye roll
and i supose you supported C.68 also??

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The problem is with using the word "HUNTING". Obviously hunters do not have a problem with ranches that raise animals for meat, whether it be beef or elk. However the problem I see is that hunters do not want the word hunting associated with high-fence game farms. So the challenge I see is in giving it another name.

HIgh fence game farms should not be outlawed, they are no different than a ranch, its just the method of the kill that is controversial.

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Cowgirl has gotten exactly my point, That is not a Form of hunting in my opinion. I dont even think thats sportsman like at all, That should be categorized as something else.
By the way you defend it I am assuming that you Must have somthing to do with High fence shooting, And you dont want it banned.
No I do not support C 68, I think it is bullsh*t and 4 u to make that assumption is rediculous. I dont think a Killer will register his guns, And the chances of me going and robbing a 7-11 with my scoped 270. Thats Laughable. A local gunsmith is taking the Canadian goverment to court Perhaps you have heard of Bruce Montague he is from MY town, and he was changed with Not registering his firearms and some other things. I support him 100%
NO I just dont share your beliefs...But dont make assumptions at me because your getting defensive about the reality of Hunting Trapped game.
Well have a nice day. Mr. Cool!

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yes i do have a stake in highfence hunting; in my 2nd post on this thread i stated that i guide on both fenced and non-fenced properties.also in the same post i expressed my desire not to git into a pissing match over fences.
what my freind john was trying to git across to people is the devisive tactics the anti's are using and the question that i have is; when the banning starts where will it stop?will crossbows be next? trapping?where my freind will we draw the line?and when will we find common ground and stop the infighting

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Deleting your original post that started this debate isn't nice or fair to other viewers.

By posting here you invited our opinions.

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dont know how it got deleted but here it is again my apoligies
but its something to think about.....
Cannibals and useful idiots
Written by John Wasmuth
The following is real, and it’s here.
Joe Hunter goes to a cocktail party, nothing fancy, just a holiday gathering in Anytown, USA. A conversation begins with Bob Peta, it goes something like this;
“Say Joe, didn’t you go deer hunting this year.”
“Sure did Bob.”
“Man that’s, uh, great, did you get one?”
“Yep, sure did, nice 6 point.”
“Uh, wow, hey that’s great. Say listen Joe, yer a true hunter, a ”Real” hunter are you not?”
“Yes, I sure am.”
“Say, I hear tell of a kinda huntin where people can go and kill animals in fenced in areas. You’ve never done that have you?”
“No, no I haven’t.”
“Well I wouldn’t call that “real” hunting, would you Joe.”
“Well, that’s not the way I hunt.”
“I know Joe, but there are people that hunt in fenced areas, I don’t think that’s “Really” hunting, do you Joe.”
“Well, uh, I guess not.”
“Great, say listen Joe, a bunch of us concerned “Real” hunters are trying to get that done away with, we feel that it is unethical. Will you help us Joe?”
“Well sure, because that’s not the way I hunt, and I am a “Real” hunter.”
“Say thanks Joe; here is what we need you to do. As a “real” hunter, the big boys in senate and congress will listen to you; they know that any “Real” hunter only hunts the way you do, and that’s the only “Real” hunting there is. So what we need you to do is get out there and get petitions signed, people will sign them because you are a “Real” hunter and know that only your way of hunting is the “Real” way.”
So Joe diligently goes after the goal, to ban and outlaw any kind of hunting that Bob suggests is not “Real” hunting. He gathers signatures, petitions courts, makes meetings, he is really cleaning up this “unethical” way of hunting. Hell, he’s got a lot of support. He’s gathering “Real” hunters from all over, and finally, after much hard work, they get a legal way of hunting banned.
“Joe, you did great and we sure appreciate your hard work, but hey, let me tell you what I heard about. There is another kind of hunting “We” think is not right. Do you think you can help us?”
“Well, I guess so Bob, I don’t hunt like that, so it’s not “Real” hunting. How can I help?”
“Well, here is what we need…….,” and it’s the same story. Odd how Bob seems to keep adding onto the list of what “Real” hunting is, but Joe goes at it hard and heavy, and in the end, he gets that type of legal hunting banned. Bob and his “Friends” are happy. Joe’s a “Real” hunter after all, and these other guy’s, well, they are not, because the way they hunt is different from Joe, and Joe does not like that type of hunting, so what’s the harm in getting rid of it? Joe’s a “Real” hunter you know. Not like those other guys. He even goes to Sportsman’s organizations and recruits from within, it’s easy because there are a lot of “Real” hunters there.
Time passes and more and more legal forms of hunting are banned. Bob and his “friends” are happy with Joe. He’s been a big help. After it’s all just about gone, Bob and his “friends” decide that it is time to get Joe’s way of hunting banned, the final chapter.
“Bob, uh, hey buddy, this is Joe. I know I helped you get rid of all those other forms of legal hunting, but now there is a move to get rid of the way I hunt.”
“Well Joe, I know. My “friends” and I are spearheading that.”
“But Bob, I thought you liked the way I hunt, that it was ok for me to do the type of hunting I do.”
“Well Joe, no, any and all types of hunting are bad, the poor defenseless animals never have a chance, and we dislike, actually hate hunters.”
“But I thought the way I hunted was “Real” hunting to you.”
“Hell Joe, it was all “ Real” hunting, but we at PETA and HSUS Hate you, but thanks for all your help, we really appreciate it.”
You see, what Joe became was a “Cannibal”. A “Useful Idiot” to the anti’s and PETA. They don’t give a rat’s backside how you hunt, what you hunt, or when you hunt. They just want all hunting done away with. They use hunters against hunters to gain support for their “Causes”.
If you do not support any and all forms of legal hunting, and decide to pick and chose the ones you like and dislike, and voice any decent about the way someone else legally hunts, you are in fact, a “Cannibal” and a very very “Useful Idiot” for the enemy. There are plants even within the sacred walls of your favorite Sportsman’s organizations. Route them out, expose them, and rid the board of them. Hunting’s future depends upon it.

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Man, I wish people would stop knocking stuff they have never tried!
You would not feel like you have acomplished the same as a free range hunt but.......Its not the same thing. I have never hunted inside a fence but, if guys(or gals) want to......Great. It does something for them that makes it worth doing. By the way some "high fence" operations are bigger than the whole county where I grew up!

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