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Re: Diversity is Overrated
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We need to find that common goal and that leader that can unite us or we are destined to fail as a country.

Gee, I don't know where to begin with this one. It kind of reminds me of harkening back to the good old days in a nostalgic fashion. "It was better back in them days when everyone was the same,". Unfortunately even if it was better (which I don't necessarily think it was) the one constant is that every thing is in a constant state of flux, things change and you adapt and overcome or fall by the wayside.

We are diverse, a diverse Country, due to all the different backgrounds of people who have been born here or have come here. Diverse backgrounds, but that doesn't mean we can't have common ground, common goals, common standards, such as honesty, hard work, fairness, equality, justice, decency, compassion, strength. Those qualities aren't exclusive to one country, race, political party, or nationality.

Recently we have had leadership which wasn't conducive to unifying people and making them secure in following their leadership. Hopefully that will now change or not. Either way like the theme in that Movie, No Country For Old Men, you can't stop what's coming. Think

You seem to have difficulty comprehending what I write. Where did I suggest that the old days were better because we weren't diverse back then?

That sir is an assertion not sustained by fact - the fact of what I said or the facts of the past. We were just as diverse in 1920, or 1950 as today. We had all types of ethnic groups in this country, many of whom did not speak English.

Finally, I left the last line of my post in the quote for you to read again. Isn't that essentially what you say in the 2nd to last paragraph of your post? Why do you feel the need to attack attack attack? Why not take what I say at face value, disagree with it if I am wrong or misstating the facts, but if you agree why not build upon it? In either case do it in a constructive manner.

Do not think that as a country we should strive to come together and unite in a common goal, under a leader we respect? What is wrong with that idea?

Do you believe that we are united now and not splintered as I suggest?

It was not a left-right post, but an American post.

Sorry then, I misunderstood what you were saying. Yes, we should unite, but we have to look at things honestly especially the things that divide us. More on this later.

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I agree we have to look at things honestly, so to be honest, you and i will never see eye to eye on certain issues.

This is true of the rest of the population which prompted the thread that we're at war. I honestly don't see the two sides finding common ground so it will be a battle to dominate the other side.

What are your thoughts? Do you think we can find common ground?

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It's a shame really but it seems to me it takes something like 911 or Pearl Harbor or even the Cuban Missile crisis to get us to pull together and stand with each other. I was talking with a friend of mine a few days ago and during our conversation he refered to himself as "African American". Upon my questioning this view of himself he could only state he had allways thought of himself in this manner because so much of the black community refers to themselves as such. I put it to him that I did not think of myself or refer to myself as a "euro american" or a German American", just an American. I've never even been to Germany and he has never been to Africa. We're both Americans, having been born and raised in the same place. We have more in common than not. Maybe we all need to take this view. Diversity can be a bad thing if it leads to division. We are all Americans, aren't we?

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I agree we have to look at things honestly, so to be honest, you and i will never see eye to eye on certain issues.

This is true of the rest of the population which prompted the thread that we're at war. I honestly don't see the two sides finding common ground so it will be a battle to dominate the other side.

What are your thoughts? Do you think we can find common ground?

I hope so. The key thing is to be willing to compromise somewhat and find the middle ground that both sides are willing to live with. But, even if found this will forever be changing. People will always disagree and want things their way or the way of the group they belong to it's human nature. Especially for those with a strong herd mentality. As younger people grow older new arguments will evolve and spring up with the changing times. My personal desire is to live by certain laws and standards that make sense while allowing personal freedoms that are not harmful to the general populace. Also, being from from having to participate in any form of religion. I believe in freedom of religion and more importantly freedom from religion. I would like a Gov. that is as fair, just, rationale, as can be possible from imperfect people.

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SoCo,

I find myself agreeing with your last statement. Freedom really is the key issue. Some things we will never agree on but we can agree to disagree and still live side by side without conflict. What a boring world it would be if we all thought and believed alike. We can be diverse without being divided as a whole if we can learn to respect the rights of others to live as they see fit within reason.

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BunnySlayer wrote:
SoCo,

I find myself agreeing with your last statement. Freedom really is the key issue. Some things we will never agree on but we can agree to disagree and still live side by side without conflict. What a boring world it would be if we all thought and believed alike. We can be diverse without being divided as a whole if we can learn to respect the rights of others to live as they see fit within reason.

Hey, thanks Bunnyslayer, I'll have to wish all you guys and gals a Happy Thanksgiving as I will be signing off for a few days. Going to try some coyote hunting again Saturday, it's supposed to be colder around here then it has been so hopefully that'll help.

Take care!

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