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Well there is a week left in the bear season and I am quite disappointed. I have spent a lot of moeny on gas going to and from spots countless hours in the woods, seen more deer then I can count, a few herds of elk, couple turkey, and a bull moose, but have not see one sign of a black bear. I might go a couple more times next week hopefully seeing one but we will see what happens.

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hey kinda know how you feel been out baiting since apr 17 and no bears hitting yet kinda getting discuraged. gas prices high. and have heard of only o couple of guys getting bears. yeah maybe my bait doesn't smell right wrong spot all the bears have been shot i don't know but for some place your alowed two bear not a whole lot around yet. I'm stuck in the should i move or find a differnt spot.

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if there is toooooo many baiting site in the area that could be a problem not just for u but for few unlucky guys like u that had their baiting site little far for the bears to reach, I mean if bears has 3-4 baiting site on their way before they can reach urs,then You will not see them at ur baiting site anytime soon !anyway I am just guessing , tell me littlle bit about the area and i will see what i can do , april 17 until now with no hits ?!! that's way too long,, something is not right! have u seen any bears there before? or signs?
i've paste this message from the other thread.. tell me little bit about ur site guys and i will see why no hits yet..

give all info u have about ur site, how many baiting site u r running at the same time , where are they located , how far from each others, if u have only one site where is it ? good air circulation ..etc.... tell me everything

if thereis is bears in ur area but no hits yet we can fix this in no time,, let me hear You first and then we see what we can do to fix this problem.

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no baiting here just parking at forest service gates and walking

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Hi whitewaterripper

this is a tough hunt for sure , but that doesn't mean u don't get to see bears, the spot and stalk hunt is the toughest by far but there is few things u can do to increase ur chances.
Hunt waters, creeks, lakes,, also hunt lower land . find dark low lands that's where u find bears . NO ANIMAL ON EARTH CAN SURVIVE WITHOUT WATER , find water u find life , once u find water try to find bear tracks by walking the shore line , when u do the sopt and stalk pay attention to the ground u r walking not just miles away!

if You already hunted a land but seen no signs or bears move to another section of the land and start again, don't stay in one area keep moving, the best way to do the spot and stalk is to get on high ground and scan the area by using spotting scope, scan the area ahead of You before u walk it so u save time and hard tiring long walks,, spend lots of time scaning and lesser time walking, every hill uget on spend few minutes scaning before u start ur walk again to the next hill ( i've seen MANY bears this way ) get a topomap and locate waters or opening and hunt them, ask locals or fellow hunters if they've seen any bears in ur area, try to find spots of their favorite plants and food, once u find a good location it will be a good time to use ur predator call, read the stumped threads there is a section that I talk about the predator call and how to use it in spot and stalk or even on a stand, lots of proffesional hunters use the predator call to bring bears to their site , it is called advertising a dead baiting site ( it works )
I have shot many bears using the spot and stalk hunt and i am not saying this to brag about it, i am saying this to u to let u know that if i can do it u can , u just have to be in the right area , it is tough no doubt about it, but u can do it.
there is some grass that bear heavily deppends on at this time of the year , i will try to find a picture of it in my CDS and post it for u here so u know what to look for while walking, these type of grass u will find near water inside the thick woods or in a damp cool areas.
I will keep adding tips for u about spot and stalk hunt soon i remmeber more.
You will do it just don't give up, it will eventually happen , they say spend enough time in the woods things will go ur way at the end .. at last I would like to add one more thing ,,, keep doing what u r doing and don't give up , u will not find bears at home on ur couch u will find them in the woods by doing what u r doing so have some patience .

90% of animals lives on 10% of land .. You just have to find that 10% land

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well heres my lay out. it's the last possible place on the road you can hunt. i found it last year while bird hunting. there was sign last year in the snow i tried baiting it in the fall. but never got any hits.i'm about 100 yards from a small creek with a beaver dam on it. i guess it's in the creek valley but it's easy going and there's blue berry bushes all over. i have a blue 45 gal drum with a hole cut on the side with a lid to keep the rain off the bait. i put jello powder all over the drum as well. grain deep fryer grease and dog food. about ten feet from that i have a bait crib with logs on it. where i guess the fisher or coons are eating at the table scraps and dognuts. in a tall poplar i have a buck of old fish guts that i let root in the drive way. almost puked when i took the lid off it. my tree stand is up the slope a 33 yards. now on the way in the road there are i guess about 5 or six baits. and some body put a bait about 1 km from me on the flats. walked around and there is no sign anywhere. no tracks in the mud no scat. like i said there was a fair bit of sign last year but it's been so warm here. so i read your post about spraying gut smell around. oh also there was tracks around the beaver dam last year. any thoughts?

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ok i just read your other post. no to correct you but it's an air base. my neigbour said there are guys baiting aroung the back side where you can. i'm flexible to move. i don't work wednesday so i'm thinking really hard about moving.

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up north wrote:
well heres my lay out. it's the last possible place on the road you can hunt. i found it last year while bird hunting. there was sign last year in the snow i tried baiting it in the fall. but never got any hits.i'm about 100 yards from a small creek with a beaver dam on it. i guess it's in the creek valley but it's easy going and there's blue berry bushes all over. i have a blue 45 gal drum with a hole cut on the side with a lid to keep the rain off the bait. i put jello powder all over the drum as well. grain deep fryer grease and dog food. about ten feet from that i have a bait crib with logs on it. where i guess the fisher or coons are eating at the table scraps and dognuts. in a tall poplar i have a buck of old fish guts that i let root in the drive way. almost puked when i took the lid off it. my tree stand is up the slope a 33 yards. now on the way in the road there are i guess about 5 or six baits. and some body put a bait about 1 km from me on the flats. walked around and there is no sign anywhere. no tracks in the mud no scat. like i said there was a fair bit of sign last year but it's been so warm here. so i read your post about spraying gut smell around. oh also there was tracks around the beaver dam last year. any thoughts?

Hi Upnorth.

1 how close ur bait site is to the road ?
2 any hits on the other hunters sites?
3 if there has been hits on the other baits what kind of baits they r using?
4 the berry bushes has been eating or not ?

the spot u picked deserve another chance.
now that I know this is a un-established bait site here is what u should do:

forget about the meat and the stinky baits ,, these are no longer needed , what u need from now on is the opposite of stinks.

u need to buy these :
Anise oil
peppermint oil
vanilla oil
raspberry syrups
blueberry syrups
blueberry + raspberry crystal juice to mix with water
oats
2 sardine cans
water gun ,,, YES WATER GUN the one kids use for water war they are about 20 $or less get the big one

mix ur anise oil with water and fill it in ur gun and start spraying the trees of ur site and go as high as possible.
do the same thing with ur peppermint and vanilla oil.. do these steps seperatly

mix the raspbery syrups with water until u feel it is thin enough to be able to spray it on ur trees with ur water gun and do the same thing u did above ,, same thing u do with the blueberry syrups.. leave some on the side and get some breads and dip the bread in blueberry syrups and some in raspberry syrups and hang the bread in a burlap bag about 5-6 feet high. make 2 bags one for raspberry bread and one for bluebeery bread.
mix ur blueberry crystal juice with water and spray the trees
mix oats with oil grease and spread it in ur site
open the 2 cans of sardine half way and nail them to the trees opposite from eah others about 7 feet high and let the oil inside drip on the tree. (put 1 can east and the other west facing each others)
if u wanna add little bit of meat and dognut u go ahead and do so.
do a honey burn and leave the area for 1 full week

if there is bears in the area they are gonna pay u a visit within days.. how do u know that bears visited ur site? well u should see all the branches broken off and ur site is in a big mess. a trail camera will help alot but since u don't have one i recommend u take few pictures of ur site aftr u finish all steps above and when u go back there take more pics to compare them to ur old pics

if no hits then choose another site and do all the above..
I recommend u stick with this site even with no hits this year and work on a new one, i am sure next year u will have hits for sure.
once u finish all the steps above u should be able to smell ur site 400 yards away.

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well i tried what you said last night and we will see what happens. i talk to anther guy thta was baiting he's getting hits. he also mentioned that being by the creek the bear don't like the noise. oh yeah if a bear claws the tree there should be more then two claw marks. beacause there was a a tree where i have been wipeing my hands on and about 5 feet up there were two claw makrs. then where the dead fish was the were more but they were only about a inch long. so we will see i have to goto moose jaw this weekend and wont be back till the 20 of may we will see what happens.

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I went out tonight and found nothing once again, plus my truck started dropping oil pressure on the way back so if I cant get that fixed my season is probably over which sucks because I wanted some sasuage, smoke sticks and a bear rug haha

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sorry to hear that buddy , i am sure You will get it fixed and back in the woods for few more times before the season end.

What I am curious about is the location You choose to hunt bears ! Are You sure that area has good number of bears in it ? have You seen bears there or seen tracks before?
did You do Your scouting first? if You did when did You do it ?
when I go scouting for bears I do it after the first snow fall, this way bears are preparing for their long sleep so it is so much easier to spot their tracks on snow and follow it until You see them or bump into their dens. have You done that ? or You just decided to hunt bears and up you went ?
call the biologist of that area and ask him if that unit has bears in it , I would even narrow it down and ask him about the location i am hunting .

I don't think you've done Your homework before the season started,, this is not a hunt over bait , this is alot harder , You have to do you homework before you do a hunt like this.

don't give up, You still have some time left. even if You didn't get anything this year , i am sure You will have some great memories of that place !

I am not sure if i mentioned this to You before but just in case i didn't, hunt bears early morning and evening, that is ur best chances of spoting one.

good luck to You , if You didn't get ur trophy bear this year You will next year for sure,, the best trophy u will have for this year is the time and the learning process u spent out there while looking for ur bear.

let Me know if I could be more helpfull to you or if You have any further questions

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