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Did I get a deer?

Took a friend hunting with me this last tuesday.  Young guy, hunted his whole life, but not particular good at 'hunting'.  We hunted my ranch, obviously I know it better than he does.

We came home with a 3 pointer.  I have a private ranch and I don't allow the taking of forkies... that's another topic.  

Great day... we went up late morning and hunted through the evening.  Most of the day we looked for sign, ate burritos, enjoyed the pines, the sage, and the abundant wildlife... pigs, bobcats, raccoons, etc.  

Different conditions on my ranch this year... like I've never seen before, so I'm trying to read how it's affecting the deer.  Spent the morning doing that then decided where we should probably be when the 'prime' time for hunting began.  

About 7pm I spotted a deer at about 400yds.  My friend wanted to open fire but I asked, "why"?  I asked that because for one thing, the most important thing, because I'm a "one shot" type of hunter... if you're in doubt don't take the shot.  But also... the deer was positioned perfectly for a 'hunt'... IOW... we could get close.  

Took some convincing but I eventually got through to my friend.  Then I laid out the 'plan'.. which involved him stalking, in a precise manner... location, and time, and me staying put to send hand signals.  We put the plan into effect...

I had no intention of 'shooting'... brought my friend to get a deer, that was my goal.

As it turns out, and so as not to get lengthy with this post... the plan worked to perfection, or nearly so... he missed his first shot, about 150yds, but the deer did not bolt so he got it with his second shot.  But the "Plan"... worked perfectly.  

After the quite rigorous retrieval of the buck, then the field dressing, and during the drive back home I couldn't help thinking... "Nice hunt, went according to plan".  According to plan in reading the early day signs, postioning ourselves at the right place at the right time, then forgoing the 'jump out and throw lead in the air' strategy to a plan a bit more cerebral.  

I didn't shoot the deer... I've taken many in my lifetime, (I'm old  Big smile ), but in MY mind... it was another 'personal' success.  I don't 'keep count', that's for the youngsters, (nothing wrong with that by the way).  But I do remember successes, especially the ones I feel are 'earned'.  

So the way I chaulked this one, in memory, is that I got a deer.  You may not agree, and that's fine... I can understand that.

But the BIG thing is:  Next weekend I'm taking grandson for the second time this season and I think I have a 'plan'.  I'm a good hunter, not great, but good... and if I can lead my grandson to his first 'buck'... then, wellllllll, another success, BUT... my grandson's deer.  Big smile  I'm not afraid to be hypocritical.   Big smile - JamesJM

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I would say yes, you got a

I would say yes, you got a deer.  I couldn't tell you how many times I have taken out a young or even a older hunter and let them get all the glory.  I know that if I wanted to I could fill my tags every year but there are times when it is best to let the other guy do it.  I also have always figured that if I have a opportunity to take a animal then my hunt is successful weather I pulled the trigger or not.  

I am a lot like you in that as I get older it is funner to take let someone else harvest the deer or even a elk before I do.  I figure that if I never kill another one that I have killed my share and then some during the last 40+ years of hunting that I have done.  

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Congrats

I would say yes also !  Thumbs up Congrats on getting out there and helping your friend. Now get out there a get your grandkid one !  Dancing

Good luck on the rest of your hunts.

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Yes

You got a deer and a hearty congratulations is in order sir.

Good luck putting your Grandson on a deer. You have skills to pass on to others, be it Grandkids or friends, and you should be proud of that and I commend you for passing it on.

 

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Well done

Job well done. Thumbs up Yes Applause

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Thanks to all who replied..

but now a sad confession.  I haven't been able thus far to help my grandson harvest his first buck.  And Monday.. I think I was to blame.

Coming over a ridge I got that 'tingle'... I intuited 'Antlers'... and told my grandson to be extra watchful.  We rounded the ridge and I stopped the ATV to view the hillside - but rather than 'wait'... I exited the ATV, the view was on the other side of the ATV... and when I did.. a very nice Buck jumped at about 80yds.  Had I simply stopped, stayed in my seat, I would have spotted the Buck and my grandson would have had an 80yd shot... almost a sure thing.  

Well, three more weeks of deer season!  I know where they are... but wow, getting that 'sure' one shot buck for my 13yr old grandson is a bit tougher than I expected.  

Another admission.. a part of me thought I should have allowed him to take one shot even though the deer immediately crested a ridge and when he showed up again was 150yds and moving, not frantically but running none the less, and quickly leaving the area.  I thought, "he could have at least taken his first shot"... BUT... I don't hunt that way.  That's not a moral judgement, in the least, I only mean I want my grandson's first shot to be a good one, and I don't think a 'running' shot at 150yds meets that criteria.  

Back to the ranch hopefully this weekend.  But youth football is messing things up, so I'm not sure.  FOR SURE is the last weekend, 3 weekends from now.  And you can bet I'm going to pull every bit of know-how, if any, out of my hat to make this season a success for my grandson.  

And thanks again for the comments.  This is my first year back hunting after a very LONG hiatus.... even though I was raised hunting.  GREAT to hear fellow hunters speak once again, you are the salt of the earth. - JamesJM

 

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James, both succesful hunts,

James, both succesful hunts, regardless of the outcome!  Congrats on getting your buddy a deer!

Not sure if you mentioned it in the other thread, but will you allow your grandson to take any legal deer on your ranch?  I know you said no forkies, but just wondering if since he's your grandson, and it's his first deer, if you'd allow it.

Good luck!

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First Bucks

Ca_Vermonster wrote:

James, both succesful hunts, regardless of the outcome!  Congrats on getting your buddy a deer!

Not sure if you mentioned it in the other thread, but will you allow your grandson to take any legal deer on your ranch?  I know you said no forkies, but just wondering if since he's your grandson, and it's his first deer, if you'd allow it.

Good luck!

 

Oh yes.  The rule we set is that Forkies are ok if it's your first Buck.  In fact, we came across a very nice one on Monday but couldn't get positioned for a shot.  

Once you get a Buck, however, it's 3pt or better, no matter your age.  Now a confession, for most of this season I've been trying to get my grandson a 3pt or a VERY nice Forkie, rather than a tiny one.  BUT... only 3 weekends to go.  So this last trip we spotted a Spike at about, geez, 40yds at most?  I tried my best to put a fork on him but no luck. :) 

I've got my fingers crossed that as 'odd' as the conditions have been this year perhaps the Rut will begin a little earlier.  The Rut starting by the last weekend of the season is not actually 'rare' but it doesn't happen every year. - JamesJM

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Sounds like you're right

Sounds like you're right there, just gotta get the last pieces to fall into place. Keep at it, and I bet we'll see a success report in the near future!

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3 PT/FORKIE

I'm sure what ever he gets, his first will be a trophy, I still have my first "rack" a 3ptr I got when I was 12 and am damn proud of it!

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