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Because the world has looked at the evidence and made a decision based on science.

You are welcome to debate all you'd like. Feel free, but don't expect me to go back and forth when you both selectively quote from the same National Geo article to make the opposite point to the authors. Actually don't expect me to go back and forth at all. I'm spending a lot of time on health care reform, the green arguement isn't right now.

The pro pollution scientists working for Exon Mobile are also free to debate via the scientific method with submissions to peer review publications in print or online. They must use published numbers and methods allowing for reproduceable results. That's how scientists do it. But they can't, so instead they do media campaigns and conferences of non scientists. Lots of luck being taken seriously that way.

Carbon credits are similar to the trade in polution that the coal fired electric plants were doing in the East and Midwest. It allows more plolution prone plants to keep operating but the less poluting ones to do so cheaper. Companies could buy polution credits from cleaner plants and keep profitable but poluting plants online. As I remember there was even a futures market in credits. Eventually less profitable but more poluting plants are phased out.

I think Canada last week either passed or debated legislation commiting to eliminate coal produced electricity by some time 20 years in the future. That gives people investing in other modes of generation the abliity to plan knowing there will be a revenue stream.

Ultimately you all have to just admit, Americans have made a decision to go with science. We voted on it. Obama was extremely straightforward on his views and objectives re climate change. He publicized it for two years, go look. Now you all can scream and yell all you want, but the other 80% of us don't have to listen.

One has to wonder about supposed consevative hunters being anti conservation pro pollution.

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Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh

Our mind is made up. We studied the facts, and have determined that disease is caused by an imbalance of bodily humors best cured by bloodletting -- preferably by leeches. Write it down, because we've solved this once and for all. No, no, no...don't start up with your so-called "microorganism" pseudo-science peddled by the alchemists. Just accept it -- everyone knows it's true.

If your mentality represents the administration's embrace of "science" (just because it says it is), then my third grader has a PhD. Science is not static -- you don't look at something, take a vote on it, and then declare it a truth for all eternity -- impervious to challenge.

Oh, wait...that's how Obamanation operates, isn't it? Lay down some edict saying something is true, and the rest of the Obamabots are all supposed to get in line and accept it unquestioningly.

And by the way, if you hadn't noticed, the skeptics are gaining traction -- which is why people like you are increasingly heaping on ridicule and trying desperately to declare victory and shut down the debate.

Which reminds me -- if it's all bunk, why would the Democrats be afraid to allow someone to debate Gore on the matter? Still waiting on an answer.

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Expatriate we're wasting our time with Pogo. He obviously does not have the capacity to comprehend our explanations.

We have historical data on our side, fossils, ice cores, etc. What does Gore have? Ah yes... those lame computer models. Many scientists have gone on record to state that those models are not based on scientific fact. They're based on Gore's fantasies and visions of dollar signs.

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I know, Cowgal...it's just fascinating to explore something I'd only read about in psychology textbooks -- a living Milgram study.

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Laugh Laugh Laugh

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Collin Peterson (D Minn) cries foul on EPA ethanol proposal, vows not to support climate change bill. Guess everyone didn't get the message that the global warming debate was over! neener!
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/05/warmist_infighting_reveals_t...
Quote from above article:
"Those of us who believe Global Warming is a huge scam designed to profit those interests pushing it as "consensus science" just got a big boost from a powerful Democrat committee chairman in the House of Representatives."

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2009/05/06/key-dem-blas...

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I immeadiately thought of this thread when I came across a posting entitled

"Global Warming is a load of BS cooked up by by Al Gore in the late 90s to sell books"

on my favorite progressive blog.

Some choice quotes,

"It amazes me how naive most of the world is. I mean, he's AL GORE for petes sake! And yet millions of people, or maybe I should call them "sheeple", irregardless, millions of folks worldwide have bought into his absurd fiction. But here's the real truth: there isn't one single shred of scientific evidence to back up the THEORY of global warming. "

or

"But liberals have never tried to disguise their hate of private enterprise. They can’t stand to see smart, hardworking Americans succeed. Don’t believe me? Just turn on the news. Liberals have made it more than clear with their usurious new tax policies; you have no right to your own money."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/5/8/729116/-Global-Warming-is-a-load-...

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So why are the Democrats afraid to debate the issue?

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Because,
"Our worst nightmares are coming true—overnight we’ve become a fascist state. Grand Dictator Obama is pulling the wool over all our eyes. He’s a megalomaniac who won’t settle for leader of the free world--he wants to be the Messiah. "

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OK Pogo -- you've vented some more sarcasm and ridicule from your system.

Now try to think like a grownup and answer the question: If global warming skeptics are out to lunch, why are the Democrats afraid to debate them? If these people are as far off base as you claim, it should be easy to discount them with facts.

You're spending an awful amount of time diverting and avoiding -- which just indicates that you're out of ammo again.

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