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Deer in North CO, New Hunter, Where to Go, Leftover List?

I'm in Fort Collins, CO. I moved here in 2005 from Oregon. In OR, obtaining licenses was easy and I knew where to go.

In CO, it's much more of a challenge. Just completed my hunter education course, which was a total waste. Seems that >70% of the course was on types of bows, which muzzleloader powder burns faster, and how to differentiate between a lever action and a bolt action. In short, lots of the material was interesting in a trivial sense, but in no way made me a better or safer hunter. I found the whole thing bizarre. I expected to spend a lot of time on hunter orange, proper gun carrying techniques, rules and regs about licensing and where you can hunt, how to keep your weapon safe, how to keep your ammo safe, etc. Nope.

Anyway, after jumping through that hurdle, I'm now looking to buy a deer tag. I see that all deer tags here are limited. Weird. I'm used to just buying a deer tag, no questions asked. It looks like applications for all of the deer tag draws happened back in spring ... but there is something called a leftover list.

Q1: So, is the leftover list the tags that remain after handing out to the applicants? E.g., if the allocation were set at 500 and only 200 people applied, the leftover list would contain 300 tags?

So, I see that in the list there is: DE007O1A for deer in GMU 7,8,9,19, and 191. These are the areas that are close to Fort Collins. Maybe not the best hunting locations, but I mainly just want to get out in the woods on a weekend. Also, there are 629 available. Opens 8/26 and Closes 9/24.

Q2: Again, does the 629 represent the number of deer tags available for these units?

Q3: The website says that the leftover list tags go on sale on 8/8. So, what does the 8/26 OPEN date mean? If I'm elligible to buy one of these tags, when can I do so?

What's the deal with the four seasons? I'm used to one or two. In OR and WA, there is a general season and then there's a late season. A license/tag makes you elligible for both. If you don't get your buck/bull in the general season, you can go out again for the late season, if there is one.

Q4: How do the seasons work in CO? Do you get just one season?

I had hoped to learn this as part of Hunter Education. Shouldn't that be mandatory? How to read a GMU map, how to identify what hunt code you prefer, how to fill out an application properly, what a license/tag entitles you to do, etc. These all seem very important to Hunter Education, much more so than the history of the Pittman-Robertson act that donates 11% of firearm and ammo sales to a wildlife fund, how those funds are directed, and a 30 minute dissertation on how some states want to misappropriate them to non-wildlife uses.

I'm a rifle hunter, using the old .30-06 (Browning White Gold Medallion A-Bolt + Leupold VariX-III). My style of hunting is walk-sit-walk-sit. It's like a slow nature walk with a rifle in hand. I typically day-hunt, but may consider an overnight venture. I'm a novice and wouldn't take a shot at a deer over ~200 yds. In OR and WA, I would hunt in the national forest land and/or around logging sites. I'm just not familiar with the areas over here.

Q5: With those characteristics in mind, anyone have any good spots that I should consider going hunting?

Anyway, thanks for all the help. I have two graduate degrees, but find the Big Game regulations here rather confusing. eye roll

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Deer in North CO, New Hunter, Where to Go, Leftover List?

A1: Sure.....

A2: If you looked at the leftover list and it states that there are X amount of tags leftover, that's how many tags there are AFTER the draw process.

A3: The leftovers go on sale to the general public on 8-8-06. TYhe actual season starts on 8-26. This is for the archery season. The code with the A at the end designates it as Archery. M at the end would designate it as a Muzzleloader and R is for rifle. There are a few different rifle seasons, which can be designated as 1R, 2R, 3R and so on.

A4: You can hunt during the archery, muzzleloader, or any of the designated rifle seasons. You're allowed only one deer. Elk are totally different, as you can get leftovers (cow) in addition to the bull tag you purchase over the counter or draw in the drawing.

A5: Do some scouting and get a big game unit map & topo map. If you're in Ft. Collins, I'd venture up the Poudre Canyon and get off at the Masonville exit and hunt that big hill just to your right as you get off the main road. If you can't kill a deer in there (even from the parking lot), I'd hunt in a different state.

There are indeed going to be a boatload of leftovers available. If you don't want to hunt close to home, there are alot of other leftovers available. Good Luck

Boob

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Deer in North CO, New Hunter, Where to Go, Leftover List?

Thanks for the replies. Looks like I understood the Leftover List properly. Thanks for the tip on the Masonville hill. I'll have to go do some scouting out there.

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On your class. I would say you must have had a pretty poor teacher. My son took it two years ago and and he went into alot into how tbe safe as far as the gun goes...all the orange to wear he also went pretty in depth on survival in case of getting lost or another emergency. I just think you had a poor instructor!! welcome to CO and good luck.. I too have a either sex deer and elk tags for units 7,8,9,19 and 191.

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Re: Deer in North CO, New Hunter, Where to Go, Leftover List
67L48 wrote:
Anyway, thanks for all the help. I have two graduate degrees, but find the Big Game regulations here rather confusing. eye roll

Ditto, DOW regulations are Colorado's home grown version of IRS regulations.

Draw, OTC, leftover, capped, rfw, voucher, landowner, and public vs. private tags makes for interesting navigation. Not to mention the various seasons, season lengths, and the restrictions that occur between species in a given season (for instance muzzleloaders and archers can hunt bear w/o elk/deer tag, rifle hunters cannot).

Note that I believe you can only buy left over tags at license agents on the 8th. Hunt codes with few left over go quickly...

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Deer in North CO, New Hunter, Where to Go, Leftover List?

Part of the problem is that I'm trying to learn all of this by reading. It's infinitely easier if you have a veteran show you how it works. I think I've figured it out, though. I think I even understand the point system now. lol

I'm a rifle hunter and codes I posted earlier are for archery. So, I went back and found the proper codes. I think I'm going after DM009O4R, which has 642 leftover tags. Good for units 9, 19, and 191.

I think the Masonville area is in unit 20, so I won't be going there. I'll try to find an area in the Roosevelt National Forest.

Not planning on getting an elk tag, which of course means that I'll stumble onto at least 2 trophy bulls. ;)

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