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I've read the reviews on the TC muzzle loaders, but I hear CVA makes a good muzzle loader too.  Anyone own one who comment on how CVA compares to TC which the make I am leaning toward?

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CVA makes a fine ML and are

CVA makes a fine ML and are comparatable to the TC Omega.  I know of a number of hunters that us one and none of them have had any problems with them. 

I personally have a couple of TC's.  One is a sidelick Renegade in .50 and .54 and the other is a TC Triumph in .50.  The nice thing about the Triumph is that it takes a standard 209 shotgun primer witch is a lot nicer than the cap ignition of the Renegade along with being quite a bit lighter.  As far as witch one I perfer that would have to go to the Renegade and the old style looks and can shoot just as well as the modern one. 

One thing to consider when buying one is what kind is allowed in the area that you plan to hunt.  There are a number of states that only allow for exposed hammers and cap ignition so no shotgun primers.  But other than that it is just personal perference and or cost since the CVA is a little bit cheaper but I like the Thompson Centers.   

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I didn't think much about the

I didn't think much about the Muzzle loaders being different in terms of what one state might not allow.  I will have to look into my home state as well as other states I might hunt and use that information as part of my decision making.  Thanks.

One thought, the requirements only apply during muzzle loader season and not the regular firearm right?

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Yep the requirements are only

Yep the requirements are only durring the muzzle loader hunts.  From what I know of the only states right now that those requirements are need are Washington, Oregon, and Idaho I believe but since I don't hunt those states I really don't follow the laws up there that much.  I do know that both are leagal in Colorado, Utah, and Arizona and you can have a 1 power scope on it in Utah.  No scopes are allowed during the ML hunts in Colorado and no sabots.  I'd have to look up Arizona's laws to see about the scopes and sabots. 

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You know, i bought a CVA Wolf

You know, i bought a CVA Wolf a couple of years ago.  It was only something like $129, give or take, and I had a gift certificate, so I got it for around $40.  I have not shot anything with it yet, but I can say that it shoots straight at the paper, is easy to load and easy to clean.  I think once I start hunting more with it, it won't be a problem.  The TC's do look like they are coming down in price though, so the gap is closing.

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I definitely think I will

I definitely think I will have to get one.  I think it would be fun to shoot a smoke pole.

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Plus, it will open up alot

Plus, it will open up alot more hunting seasons for you.  That's always a good thing.

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I own the entire line up of

I own the entire line up of the 2010 models CVA's  "except for the Scout" and they all have been great shooters for us. My Favorite strictly muzzleloader " by that i mean no centerfire/muzzleloader change overs"  is the Accura V2 and CVA Optima. 

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I consider the Connecticut Valley Arms (CVAs) a good starter rifle.  They are perfect for someone with a tight budget. 

I had one as my first muzzle loader, but it was no where near as accurate or reliable as my Knight rifle that I upgraded too. 

I had several misfires with my CVA percussion cap rifle. 

No failures to fire to date with the KNight 209 style ignition. 

It might be an apples to oranges comparision but that is the best that I can give you based on my experience.

 

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I suppose I'm on my 3rd or fourth M/L no and it's the first with the 209 primer. A huge upgrade in my opinion. The one I shoot now is a CVA Optima and I like the simplicity of take-down and cleaning with it. I began using a Bore Snake for help in cleaning a year or two ago and boy, does it help out IMO.

The rifle and scope combo sure seem to maintain their zeros, a good thing. Sunday is the last day of any special M/L seasons around here, not sure if I'll get back out or not.