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Custom rifle vs stock

Everybody tell me that if I want better accuracy I need to get a custom gun and reload my own. On the custom gun side I am looking at the Remington Model 700 Custom KS Mountain Rifle. Is it any better than a stock out of the box rifle? Why? Are there better customs for the money than the Remington? Thanks, Greg

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Custom rifle vs stock

What do you plan to do with this rifle? If hunting is the answer then any out of the box rifle is more than accurate enough to do the job. Since this is in the elk section, I'll assume elk are on the main targets of this firearm. If you have money to burn then go with the custom but it is my opinion that most out of the box rifles will exceed their owners abilities. Customs do tend to be more consistent which can translate to more accurate and reloads can be more consistent which can translate to accurate if you find the right recipe to make the ammo that your gun likes. This is trial and error at best and can take a lot of time to accomplish. If it was my choice, I'd buy a Rem. 700 out of the box and spend the extra on a good quality scope.
If its competition you are looking into then by all means go with a custom and reload. They are more accurate but not by as much as you would be lead to believe.

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I would primarily shoot elk and moose with it. One reason I am looking into it is that you can get it in 300 WBY. I love the Remingtons and the 300 WBY calibar. The out of the box Remingtons don't come in 300 WBY. I am also looking at the Rem. 300 ultra short mag but haven't heard of much feed back yet.

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Why not the 300 ultra mag which is hotter than the 300 WBY (not by much) and is available in most of their rifles. I have the sendero sf in this calibre and I love it.

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If I were going to buy a new rifle off the shelf, I would likely go with the new Tikka T3. However, Remington and winchester would also be on the list. Wihtout even shooting them however, I would glass bed the actions and give the triggers a tune up. With that done, be sure to break in the barrel and develop super accurate loads..you will be surprised how accurate a set up like this can be. Truth is, other than off a bench rest, none of us will ever know how they shoot ! Break that barell in slow and PRACTICE.

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Maybe take one or two steps into "custom"

I agree with the above posters regarding the Rem 700 action and the 30 calibers. I'm asking the same question of hunting pals / gunsmiths right now as I have saved up for my next hunting rifle in 300 WM.

But instead of dumping tons of money on ALL the customizations that can be done (the list is seemingly endless), I'm looking for the number 1 and 2 things that can be done and provide the most bang for the buck on a good stock rifle.

I'll probably be going with the Rem 700 BDL or a Win Mod 70. Both are very accurate for hunting purposes out of the box as said above. Both should shoot 1" MoAs (1" groups at 100 yds). However, what my research has brought to light is for $250-400, a guy can have a custom barrel installed with a custom twist setup for the bullets you will shoot most and have the trigger tweaked and given enough practice (and good optics), be able to shoot 1" MoAs at 200 yds.

Now this doesn't seem like much, but for one rifle, it would be nice to taste what that accuracy looks like.

Again, this all of the above is based on my personal preferences and my wallet and my desired quarry... ELK.

A guy can have a custom rifle built and spend anywhere from $600 to well over $3500. I'm just wading in a bit to have a little fun.

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The satisfaction I get from a custom rifle vs stock is I get to pick the action, caliber, barrel contour and length I want. If the smith guarantees you a rifle that will shoot 1/4"moa or better he has to keep working on it until it will. That typically comes with a big price tag.

If you go to a smith and just tell them what components. What you get is what you get. The rifle may or may not put all the bullets in one hole, but they usually shoot quite well. It depends on barrel quality. How well he squares and fits the action to the barrel and the crowning.
You need to make sure the action fits snug and square in the stock and the barrel may or may not need bedding.

In factory guns of any quality. They know what they need to do to a rifle so it shoots well, before they can put it on a retailers rack. Then it's left up to the person that buys it to make it shoot to their satifaction.

I've had real good luck so far both ways with Remington, Browning, Savage and Remington actions with Douglas barrels.

Another idea that works well is to buy a quality stock rifle and have a smith refit the barrel to the action and recrown it. This helps quite often and at a minimal price.

Good luck

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