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Current Administration tries back-handed gun control on Government lands!

I think all sportsman need to read this and act on it accordingly. It's not good, but it's the type thing I'd expect from the current administration.   Censored

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Gun owners who have historically been able to use public lands for target practice would be barred from potentially millions of acres under new rules drafted by the Interior Department, the first major move by the Obama administration to impose limits on firearms.

Officials say the administration is concerned about the potential clash between gun owners and encroaching urban populations who like to use same land for hiking and dog walking.

"It's not so much a safety issue. It's a social conflict issue," said Frank Jenks, a natural resource specialist with Interior's Bureau of Land Management, which oversees 245 million acres. He adds that urbanites "freak out" when they hear shooting on public lands.  read more at this link:

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/20...


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No surpise here at least from

No surpise here at least from me. It's always been my fear that something like this will happen. Ninety percent of my hunting is done on BLM lands and it's not uncommon to be able to see homes on distant hilltops. And most of them are very vocal in not wanting any hunting around where they live. Any game warden will tell you they get calls from these people every day with all sorts of lies about the hunting and shooting being done. Hopefully things like this can be stopped before we lose even more of where we can go.

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Government lands

Out here in Arizona the excuse they're using is that shooters have left trash all over the place.  So obviously any excuse will do other than the real reason...they want to inconvenience hunters and bring them onto the reservation.  In their mind, legitimate shooting, like any human behavior, must be conducted under controlled conditions under government oversight...i.e. an approved, controlled, environmentally sensitive gun range.

The next step will be to ban lead ammunition on all federal lands.  And in typical Obama fashion, it's being done through regulatory decree in executive agencies, rather than through Congressional legislation.

 

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AAaaah, so finally we get to

AAaaah, so finally we get to the truth. It was the shooters and hunters who left that big trail of trash heading north from the border. I get so confused sometimes. Whistling

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As for the trash problem I am

As for the trash problem I am going to have to say that some shooters are the culprits for trashing up an area.  In a area that I hunt in Arizona you could load up several pickups with the trash that they have left.  Everything from shot up oil jugs to the broken beer bottles and targets that they place on a piece of cardboard and leave after they are finished shooting at them. 

I know that where I go here in Colorado to shoot and sight in my firearms I took a truck load of trash to the dump this year and it was just from what people have left after getting done shooting their weapons. 

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maybe instead of banning

maybe instead of banning shooting, there should be a litter law and in hunter safety, we need to start teaching the kids to be better stewards of the land in the west.

 

hunters and shooters already have a program in place for this.

and this solution offers education to the people involved which is a more permanent solution for future generations to benefit from.

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Thanks for sharing the link Tndeerhunter.

Thanks for sharing the link Tndeerhunter.  I agree Hunter25 – It is no surprise that this administration would make a grab at gun control.  I am actually very surprised that they have not pursued it more aggressively.  My fear is that they are waiting for a second term when the voter backlash wont matter to the head honcho.  I hunted the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) land on my Washington hunt and would surely like the chance to keep going back there. 

We are a lot more crowded in my home territory in New York State.  It is common to locate your hunting stands with the location of homes and roads in mind.  I have also encountered hikers on opening day on public land who had no idea that it was hunting season – even letting their dogs run off leash through the woods.   

We don’t have BLM land but the Adirondack park is six million acres of public land that is a short drive from my place. 

Expatriate is right that any excuse will do, and that government controlled population is not a free and armed people.  We should all work to maintain a positive image of hunters and hunting.  Please don't give any excuse to anti-gunners by littering or trespassing, etcetera. 

Here in New York I expect that next step of banning lead ammunition for hunting – California style.  They have already banned the use of lead wheel weights as an environmental protection issue.  What that has done is make it darned hard to mold your own bullets and shot because the supply of lead is drying up real fast and the prices have soared for what is left.  Anyone with a decent supply of lead is holding onto it for their own use.  I can’t blame them for that.  We should probably all stock up on things that we expect to be banned….

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I don't think this will pass,

I don't think this will pass, unless he tries to do something by executive order.  There is no way, in an election year, that the democrats are going to give another thing for the republican base to get fired up over.  There are too many democrats from the southern states, and they would be thrown out on their butts if they tried to ban firearms on BLM or federal land.

This also brings up the concealed carry issue that just passed the house.  I would not be surprised to see it pass the Senate, even though it's controlled by the Dems.  Then, I would love to see if Obama would sign it, or try and veto it.  Could be a big victory for concealed carry proponents.

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  Thanks for sharing this

 

Thanks for sharing this Tndeerhunter.  I am of the same opinion as the other posters here.  I can't see this going through right now just before an election year... I hope.  Still something to e-mail our congressmen about to ensure they really know how we feel about this.  The excuses being used are that similar to the animal activists - more emotional driven reasoning versus solid facts and solid science behind it.  It will be interesting to follow any more discussion on this topic - if it gets pushed more.  If so - we crush it with facts and sheer hunter/gun owner voices and votes!

 

 

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i have looked into gun bills

i have looked into gun bills over the years, and finding no confirmation of this specific bill, i will state the following.

it is nearing election time, and i am sure we will see nmore of this.

look who writes each bill, and who submits it. often times you see a republican's name in that place.

they tell us that our gun and hunting rights are being challenged and then they draft up some idiot proposal that has no hope of being passed because it's stupid. then, some other republican sites that bill and then "promises" to destroy that bill because he "supports our rights as outdoorsmen"

 

it's the same old song and dance.

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