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Coues Deer

I would have to say that the Coues deer is probably the species that I have read the least about. O'Connor wrote about them a little and that is about the extent of my research into them. How would you compare Coues deer hunting to say, hunting mule deer in rough canyon country or in the desert. From what I have gathered they are elusive and spooky. What are your experiences with the little deer?

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I have not hunted them, but

I have not hunted them, but have some friends that have put in as a group a few different times.  One year, they went 7 for 8 on their tags, the next year, they went 1 for 8.  So who knows what their elusiveness is.

I have actually spent some time working in their territory in southern Arizona, and spent alot of time viewing them, just never been over there to hunt them.  THey are much smaller than any mountain muley you are going to find, and they are sort of like ghosts when it comes to spotting them.  Lots of shadows and scrub brush for them to hide around, so it's not easy by any means.

Still a hunt I would like to take one of these days.  Not too far from mee, maybe only a 7 hour drive to the edge of their domain.

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I say get over there and give

I say get over there and give it a go then Verm. I figured they would be a little hard to glass up. It sounds like it would be a pretty neat hunt though.

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Always been interested

I have always been interested in hunting them, just have not had the oppurtunity. I am sure at some point after i get a few animals here in nevada and utah, i will look at getting a tag, right now om more concerned with finding that large Muley that is out there hiding somewhere. Just wish spring would get here so that the scouting can get underway. Was planning on going into the spring mountains today, but the non stop rain here has just been insane. Watching the news right now on a swift water rescue.

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what range are they in

I've seen programs where they are hunted in Mexico, how far does their range come north into teh United States?

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Their Northeast range is

Their Northeast range is southwestern New Mexico and the west into Arizona.

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Thanks

Thanks JSmitty.  Is that an Arizona oryx gazelle (aka gemsbok) that I see in your avatar?

I have heard that there are some that run wild there.  They are just amazing creatures!

I'd love to hunt them again.

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Well the pic is one from this

Well the pic is one from this site. I couldn't get mine to load of the ones I took off White Sands Here in New Mexico, so I used one that was already in the system.

Thanks James

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Coues is the ultimate deer challenge.

The archery target for an 80 to 115 pound target is minimal.  They will travel game trails to Arizona water holes or trickle tanks so you can scout some predicatability.  Any Coues taken with Bow is a trophy.

If your hunting for a book Coues with Rifle, I personally think it is more like a Sheep.  Your optics are everything trying pre-score and determine whats a shooter and what you will pass on.

Physically there are areas in the Desert that are not too demanding.  When you get into the mountain ranges from the Catalinas through Globe and West toward Payson, it can be as tough as any Sheep Hunt.  I've found a pocket north of the Mongolleon Rim I am going to hunt hard this year and bought a Custom Nosler Sporter 48 in .260 just for the hunt.

There are many genetics strains of Coues.  Argueably the most natural is the Arizona, Southeastern New Mexico and area directly South into Mexico.  The Texas, Eastern New Mexico, and various Mexico strains have been cross bread with transplanted and various released High Fence Deer common in those areas.  When you start seeing Coues Score regularly over 125, it is several biologists and hard core Coues peoples opinions that it probably is not a Genetically True 100% Coues Deer.  Obviously that is more opinion that proven fact.

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There are a handful of

There are a handful of animals on my short next to hunt list and this is one of them. Not sure how soon but I am learning all I can.

A good source of information is coueswhitetail.com. You can read for hours and then start dreaming.

Another good source of information but will cost you a little is desertbull.com but this is more if you have already decided to hunt a specific area.

I can only afford to go on 1 or 2 relatively inexpensive hunts a year so I have not been able to work this one in yet.

 

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From what I've seen of them

From what I've seen of them on hunting shows, I'd say they compare very close to the Columbian Blacktail we have here both in size and elusivness. The Blacktails up here are called the phantoms of the jungles. The biologists here dont have a clue as to how many blacktail we have as they cant count them. I know they have done fly outs at night with infared cameras to better count them but still they cant get a accurate count. I would love to hunt couse deer sometime though.

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