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Colorado Unit 4 help!

Hello everyone, I'm new to the site as you can see.  I typically spend quite a bit of time on Huntingpa but was hoping to get some help with a trip I'm about to make to Co.  I've hunted unit 4 before but it was typically on Serviceberry mountain.  I'm thinking of heading to Routt to hunt the 2nd rifle season this year and was wondering what to expect?  Can elk be found throughout Routt that time of year?  What stage are they typically in by then?  Migration, summer or winter?  I'm just looking for a point in the right direction and I'll do the rest with leg work as I usually do.  I'm just trying to not start in the wrong direction and waste the 1 day I have to scout looking in the completely wrong location.  Any help at all would be appreciated.  Thanks!

 

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Welcome to BGH.  Yes, there will be elk on the National Forest, and more than on Serviceberry, which is more hit or miss.  They will be past the rut, and not migrating, just in recovery mode for winter.  But they will be hunkered down after 1st season, which will be about 75% less than two years ago after having tags cut in half then half again this year.  So they shouldn't be totally pushed off the mountain.  The vast majority of the elk in units 4 and 441 are harvested between California Park and Black Mountain, not down on the BLM mountains where you had been hunting them.

Expect pressure and lots of it, it's popular place for a reason.  Access is easy, the terrain isn't too steep, it's beautiful and there's plenty of elk.

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For the past three years we

For the past three years we have hunted there 1st season and this year we aregoing to give 2nd season a go.  As EX, said they cut alot of tags especially in first season.  Last year had a buddy hunt right where I shot my cow last 1st season and he was hunting second season.  He saw alot of elk and had plenty of chances at some nice bill, but he had a cow tag.  He also said while there were some other hunters around, not nearly as crowded as 1st season.  So I am hopfull to maybe fill a bull tag for the first time, then I can chase down another buck up there.

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Who knows...maybe we'll bump

Who knows...maybe we'll bump into each other out there GH :wink:  Good luck to ya!

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Maybe?

bearklr wrote:

Who knows...maybe we'll bump into each other out there GH :wink:  Good luck to ya!

 If you decide on an area or need a little help let me know and maybe we can find each other and hook up for a beverage...my treat.

 

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sounds good

GooseHunter Jr wrote:

bearklr wrote:

Who knows...maybe we'll bump into each other out there GH :wink:  Good luck to ya!

 If you decide on an area or need a little help let me know and maybe we can find each other and hook up for a beverage...my treat.

 

 

I may be in touch closer to october.  We're staying in baggs Wy and will be arriving very early on the 22nd.  I plan on using the rest of the day to get out there and scout all I can.

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Thanks for the tip

Thanks for the tip exbiologist.  I was on Black Mountain before so I'll pull up some topo's of the area you mentioned and get a few areas picked awhile.  I doubt we'll be trying the BLM land unless we want to fill a Mule deer tag.  My guess is they'll tend to be at lower elevations.  At least they were last time we were out.

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That's probably the way to do

That's probably the way to do it.  There are deer up on the National Forest, but more at the middle elevations in the BLM surrounding the fields and ranchlands.

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Gotta agree with what all has

Gotta agree with what all has been said so far. I have hunted this area the last several years too, and agree..Serviceberry is a late season area. (Where I got my cow last year during 4th season! Wink )

Sounds like you know the area pretty well, so go based on the weather. If it has been snowing pretty decent, then mid elevations...if there has been no or little snow, then stay high. Sand Point is another decent area to give a look. One of the last transition areas before they head down to winter grounds.

 

Best of luck!

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thanks!

HeavyC wrote:

Gotta agree with what all has been said so far. I have hunted this area the last several years too, and agree..Serviceberry is a late season area. (Where I got my cow last year during 4th season! Wink )

Sounds like you know the area pretty well, so go based on the weather. If it has been snowing pretty decent, then mid elevations...if there has been no or little snow, then stay high. Sand Point is another decent area to give a look. One of the last transition areas before they head down to winter grounds.

 

Best of luck!

 

So it sounds as though you want to hunt just below the snow line.  Is that safe to say?  Sorry, but I hunt out east so I'm trying to figure out what categorizes mid and high elevations.  Mid elevation to you guys is twice as high as any of our mountains.laugh

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Ah...good question!Well, I

Ah...good question!

Well, I would definately NOT overlook acton well above the snow line! I am always amazed at some of the animals that stick around up higher as long as possible and run in as deep a snow as they can. ...and ESPECIALLY the bigger bulls:wink:

So in second season, thet actual snowline is normally still up pretty high...round 10.5K' or higher. That means that is pretty much the max elevation in those units and the Elkhead Mountains. So unless the snow has got pretty deep by second, which it rarely does, I'd suggest looking at the very top! Black Mountain is the highest elevation in the Elkheads and only slightly higher than that 10.5K', and those valleys and other mountains in the area can be quite decent at that time of year, and with some effort you can still get away from people even in 2nd season.

To shamelessly promote some tools, consider checking out Exbiologist's data on his website;

http://www.westernhuntingdata.com/

Ex has some good data and for only a few dollars provides you some nice & "exact" little honey holes provided by some of the local yocals.

So, basically I'd say if the snow has happened to fly heavy by then, you are going to need to look around the 9K'-10K' range and even beyond. If we have had little snow, then as high as you can get and as remote as you can get.Yes

 

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