i'm not totally sure which ranch it was on, they went down around trinidad about three years ago for elk. They spent 13 points on the hunt. They didn't see much game on that section of the ranch and they said that the ranchers were kind of jerks about everything. They were upset about lack of game on the ranch and lack of help from the ranchers. And i think that for 13 points...i would be a little upset too.
my uncle is a landowner and he thinks that most of the RFW guys, especially in the trophy areas, are NOT gonna let you hunt an area of the ranch where the big bulls hangout. They're gonna let you hunt the worse piece on the ranch without telling you its the worst. i mean you might still see some game, but he thinks they're gonna save the big bulls for the paying customers. Cuz a lot of the RFW guys aren't just RFW, they're also outfitters. They're gonna save the big bulls for the boys that pay 7 or 8 grand to hunt, not the average joe who draws a tag from the DOW for 40 bucks.
that's the same uncle who went on the elk hunt, i'm thinking he formed this theory after he went on the elk hunt. But he also knows some of the RFW ranchers up around Craig so there might be some truth to it