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point creep

I do as COMeathunter does. I use them up every couple of years. I was not happy when CO made the point system change to require NR's more points than the resident hunters. Frankly, if I want to get a trophy elk, I wouldn't bother with CO. I apply for a MZ tag (bull 1st, cow 2nd) every year and if I don't draw I buy OTC. We don't hunt GMU 13 anymore because it takes too many points to draw a NR MZ tag. We go somewhere else that requires fewer points and is just as good. I stopped saving points in CO about ten years ago. It's just not worth it. I do have 10 or 11 points for UT elk that I have been applying for for a while. I've missed two years deadlines in the past and that really hurt. I would be in the top tiers of NR points in UT if I had 2 more points. Missing the two years put me back in the herd. I'm hoping that the fact that I have to buy a license in UT to apply for points weeds out some of the more thrifty points accumulators. I will need to go in the next few years though because I don't want to have to keep buying the stupid licenses. It get's expensive.

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NH Hunter:  If you work the

NH Hunter:  If you work the draw right in Utah you only need to buy that hunting license onece every two years.

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Critter

....do tell....

 

Does it have to do with timing the application? Makes me want to cry when I throw it in the trash every year. I cry easy...lol

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Your Utah hunting license is

Your Utah hunting license is valid for 365 days after the purchase date.  So if the draw this year started in February and ended in April and you bought your license in March then it is valid until next March.  Then when you apply next year in February the license is still valid so you are good to go.  The license only needs to be valid when you put in your application so it is a timing thing. 

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Thanks Critter!

I never read the fine print (the rules!) on UT licenses. I looked it up today and found what you said written in black and white. Stupid me. Thanks for the tip! I owe you several beers if we ever meet up. I've never heard of a license running for a year from date of purchase. Some states have wierd license years but this one struck me as especially odd.

 

Thanks again!

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Utah is about the only state

Utah is about the only state that runs a year license from the time that it is purchased and it is a nice loop hole that a lot of hunters hope isn't closed. 

If you ever draw out that tag let me know.  I have hunted just about every cornner of the state except for the northwest and know of a few honey holes for elk, deer on the other hand is anybodies guess what they are doing including themselves. 

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I am soooooooooo glad we

I am soooooooooo glad we don't use points to do the draw here in New Mexico.  Just luck!  Reading all these states that do point sytems make my head spin.  Yeah we have units that are once n lifetime hunts but there is other units that are better then the those units to start with.  IF they were to start doing points here i would hope it only for bighorn sheep hunts. 

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Point Creep+

Just an extra data point for everyone......

I had 9 points non-res going into the draw last year. Applied for 76 archery, and figured it was a 'given' based on prior stats. Starting getting maps, etc., ahead of the drawing, and was pretty pumped to have finally dumped the points.

A few weeks later....no tag.

Maybe this year, I hope. But then again, maybe not.

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Point Creep++

Angry So after applying again in 2012 in Unit 76 with 10 points for archery tag, guess what? NO TAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Stan, you are playing right

Stan, you are playing right on the edge with the number of points that you have.  It looks like last year you just weren't lucky and possibly the same this year. 

Monster Muleys has a Draw Odds Caculator that you can use to see just what you need and it also list the number of applicants and how many points they had in the draw.  It will be a while before they update it for this year but you can see where you stood last year.   

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