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Point creep

I think the system works as designed but I don’t think the DOW had the vision years ago to see this coming.  

I would love to see them let you apply for a lrs and only “pay” the points it takes to draw…like they did a few years ago.  Not everyone with high points is waiting to get to unit 2.  There is a psychological downer to having a ton of points and “blowing them” on a low point hunt so people continue to bank.  Or, not allow point applications in consecutive years, make you apply for a license.  Or make units that take more than 10 points to draw automatically transition to the kind of weighted system the sheep are on.  Or improve the quality of the hunt/animals in more units so there isn’t as much competition for the “super units”.  Once every unit is super, then none will be.  (modified Incredibles quote)   Or a combination of “solutions”.  Whatever the rules of the game are, if everyone agrees and plays by the rules, it’s “fair”.  At least we are free to choose what we want to try for, for now. 

I decided a few years ago to get busy hunting and not hoping.  I spent my elk points in 09 on a unit 40 “all or nothing” hunt and came home with nothing, my 13 antelope points last year in 3/301…what a waste.  I shot a nice buck but I should have just saved for a guided trophy hunt.  The first of those antelope points I got in 1985…  Now, I am desperately trying to figure out what to do with my 14 deer points so I can get them “off my back”.  Would love to leverage them into a whitetail hunt but…

I agree with Ex that demographics will change over time but may not help those that are alive now.  Thanks for the post Ex. 

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I have 3 deer points. And 2

I have 3 deer points. And 2 elk points. I am 43 years old. Way to old to get into the point race. Will be looking to dump my points in a year or 2. This is my first post here. I think this is a very good sight. I dont see a lot of bashing goimg on here. Bow hunters and gun hunters. I really like the articles and the reviews. Thanks 4 ur time.....Hello

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Welcome to the forum You're

Welcome to the forum

You're sitting on points just about where I was when I was your age.  I am now 58 and plan on using my 16 points next year on a great hunt.  It may not be a hunt that requires 16 points but it will be an area that does require more than average points to draw a tag.  That way I can plan the hunt and not just hope that I draw a tag.  The one nice thing about saving points is that I am also a bow hunter and have hunted deer every one of those 16 years worth of points including this year. 

Just this year I cashed in my 17 antelope points on a unit that last year you could draw with 14 and there were only 2 hunters on that unit so that should be a quality hunt.  Then in 2 years I'll cash in my 17 elk points on another quality hunt.  I have also hunted elk every year of those point gathering years, both bow hunting and rifle hunts.   

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Ex: If you had the

Ex: If you had the authority... how would you change/eliminate/tweak Colorado's system? Of course, don't give away any secrets if you are applying for the new merged Director position ha

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I think I've mentioned this before

But I'd change the entire system to a hybrid draw, which would put even more pressure on the best licenses, but take even more pressure off of the decent licenses.  I would also allow point banking.  

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Welcome to Bgh, it's a great

Welcome to Bgh, it's a great place. Everyone here seems to get along very well, Once in awhile someone comes along that doesn't but they don't seem to stay long. I'm the same age as you and just burned 17 elk points this year for unit 10. But after this I will be looking much more short term no matter how it works out.

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Thanks every one for the

Thanks every one for the welcome.. I am from North West Pa. So I only get out to Co every other year. The only gmu that I have hunted has ben gmu 54. I hunt with a bow and rifle. We have hunted there on two ocasions. And had a good time on both hunts. I would like to transfer to Co or Wy sum day. I have ben doing sum reserch lately on sum deer units. That can be drawed with out burning my points. The reserch and planing I really injoy. I just wish I had more vacation.No time to scout on foot.

 

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A good way to hunt deer and

A good way to hunt deer and elk out here in Colorado is to find a unit that has left over deer archery tags and put that as a second choice, that way you don't burn your points.  Then if you want you can also buy a over the counter elk tag and have fun for a couple of weeks and get to know some more of the country. 

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Those are our plans. Try to

Those are our plans. Try to draw sum deer tags on the second choice. We are all so looking for. A little easier terain. Our father is 65. And my brothers father in law. Is around the same age. All though thay are in pretty good shape,for there age. Thay are not getting any younger.

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Creep

I have approx. 270 bonus/pref points over many states.  Started about 15 years ago.  I am slowly trying to cash some in each year, targeting the best 5% in each state.  Cashed in 11 WY moose points this year, and maybe 13 AZ deer.  After these are gone my entire strategy for those apps is changing from trophy to opportunity hunts.  At 51, there's no way I'll ever compete for the best units again.  Since 1996 I have been fortunate to draw some of the best tags out west.  Odds were realistic back then.  Then came the internet.  I feel sorry for the young guys today.  They face a rediculously long, expensive route if they elect to pursue the best units.  Even the mediocre hunts are becoming very competetive.  Fewer of my points gain value each year any more.  They just allow me to tread water.

Glad I live in Illinois where at least I know I'll get a good deer hunt every year, with 2 buck tags.

 

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