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colorado OTC elk, deer, bear permits

what permits are available for elk, deer and bear for somebody who didn't get into any draws?  can they be purchased any time?

i think i'd like to hunt muleys most of all, but i'd bet a bear tag is easiest to get.

i'd like to go to the SW area of colorado. i spent time in Nathrop and Durango before and loved the area. i'd appreciate any information i could get. kansas sucks, i'm sick of hunting whitetails!

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For Colorado mulies you are

For Colorado mulies you are going to have to wait until June sometime to see what is left over from the draws.  I haven't paid much attention to them but I would suppose that most of the left over buck tags are going to be in units that have large chunks of private property in them and then there will be the left over doe tags.  That's one problem anymore that you really need to put in for the draw to get a decent tag and this year the Colorado DOW is cutting some of its deer tags in some areas.

Now as for elk there are a lot of hunting units that have unlimited rifle tags for the second and third seasons.  You would just need to go to the web site and check them out.  Also as far as a bear tag you can buy one over the counter for the unit that you are going to be hunting and adjacent units as long as you have a deer or elk license for the same season but they do have caps on how many that they sell.

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thanks critter. i tooled

thanks critter. i tooled around on the Colorado website today for about an hour and came up with more questions than answers. but i want to work in a week of hunting out there at least to get away from work and the house and stuff. i'm getting my annual "city fever," so it's time to start planning a few more trips.

i could have drawn this year in wyoming for what used to be a good unit, but with the draught, the bad winters and the wolves, there isn't the numbers there were even 3 years ago. so i gave up on that and switched to utah. i'll have my application in for mulies in kansas as well. as a resident, my odds are about 50% for a rifle hunt. that's not too bad considering my odds of getting a resident bull elk tag are about 5%

i sure wish you could just buy the tag, and go hunt.

 

as always, i appreciate the info.

 

 

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I had to laugh when you said

I had to laugh when you said your sick of hunting whitetails when I waited my whole life to get my first whitetail buck just last year.

Like Critter said when the leftover list comes out there will be some choices but nearly as many as there were a few years ago. Your best bet is elk but that can be a much more expensive and harder hunt. If you get in the draw next year there are many decent units that can be had with no points.

If you really need to get away one of the leftover Wyoming antelope tags are always fun.

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hunter25: i grew up in ohio

hunter25:

i grew up in ohio where you can kill about 15 whitetails a year now.

accross the country, i've killed over 40 (i think i'm at 46, but not entirely sure) whitetail deer. mostly does. i'm only 26, so in 13 years, i've gotten about 3-4 a year. and most of them with a bow. i've traveled to a lot of states to hunt as well so they've been spread out acros half a dozen states. i've shot 59 big game animals though. i've found it hard to break 60, but i will this year.

that's why i get all worked up hunting other stuff. i need the thrill of the hunt, not the thrill of the tree stand.

tell you what, you guys can come whitetail hunt with me in kansas whenever you want to. kill all you can, i'm sick of looking at them!

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That I can relate to very

That I can relate to very well. After years of hiking miles and seing new things over every hill it was very hard for me to sit still all day and just wait. I will sit sometimes and glass for 30 minutes or so here but after that it's nice to keep moving in pursuit of whatever is out there.

Like you I am now always looking for something new to hunt to add to my list of adventures and memories. But I know the more you get to do the worse the craving for more becomes.

Fortunately our country is blessed with a huge variety of game animals that will take me a lifetime to be able to go after.

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yeah. i feel about the same

yeah. i feel about the same way.

when i ride out through the timber here, i find lots of sheds, see lots of nice bucks. it's almost like going after a tame animal. the deer here aren't afraid of the horse at all. i can ride right up to them. i guess i started looking at the deer in kansas like livestock instead of game.

i still have a few species left to hunt, though. maybe deer and/ or elk this year, then maybe woodland caribou. who knows.

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Here is a good webpage I was

Here is a good webpage I was referred to for elk.  All the zones in yellow offer OTC tags for 2nd and third season.....

http://wildlife.state.co.us/NR/rdonlyres/B7D620EA-2323-40DE-A7D1-783AD945A920/0/OTCRifleElk1.pdf

 

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at this point, if i don't

at this point, if i don't draw one of the 40 resident kansas elk tags, i will be heading to colorado unit 71 for second or third season.

probably second.

i'm having a hard time getting my hunting buddies to go though, it's either "we're having a baby that month" or "sounds like work"

what the heck is wrong with these guys?

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you can never count on casual hunters

I've got two friends that are down with just about any hunt anywhere, anytime, regardless of who actually draws.  They are rare.  Most people, no matter how long I've known them and how well I've steered them in the past just won't prioritize their falls the way that you and I and other people who regularly visit hunting forums do. It's fair to say I spend a higher percentage of my income on hunting than anyone I know, yet many of my friends who make far more than I do balk at spending a couple hundred bucks on a hunt, no matter how far in advance the warning may be.  

It's just the way it is.

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i definately understand about

i definately understand about having trouble finding good hunting partners.

i've met only a few people that have the enthusiasm to want to try all kinds of new things, and a few of those poeple have the work ethic and foresight to be able to save and prepare for the hunt when it comes along.

it's a shame.

but then again, other people have different priorities. i can't expect everybody out there to devote their life to hunting.

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