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Fri, 2011-07-22 12:16
Colorado leftover license lists
Fri, 2011-07-22 12:39#1
Thanks! Just curious, would
Thanks! Just curious, would you assume that this is usually the same list from year to year? In other words, if I wanted to browse the list for possible places to hunt next year, would you say that it's likely that these units have tags left over each year?
I looked it over, and I don't see any cow tags mentioned. Of course, i don't know what half those codes mean anyway...
I will have just one point Deer, and nothing for elk. I was told I could draw with as little as 1 point for the deer in 62, and buy an OTC tag in that area for elk. Now, are there unlimited OTC tags in those zones on their website? If I looked at the site you put up for leftover tags, I only see private land available for Unit 62.
Ugh, it's confusing. So many zones, so many seasons.....
Fri, 2011-07-22 12:57#2
With it being the left over
With it being the left over draw you will only see tags that were available during the draw process that did not end up with a hunter. You are right the only tags left for unit 62 elk are either sex or cow tags on private land. To decipher the code just look at the first collum. EF062P2R means
E=elk F=female or EE=either sex 062=unit number P=private land 2R=second rifle season
As far as the OTC tags, bull tags are unlimited and can be bought over the counter and you do not need to stipulate a unit number. They are valid across the state except for in a few units that are only open to the draw. As far as the deer tag as long as nothing changes as far as the number of applicants and the number of tags you should be able to draw a buck deer tag.
Also you will usually see the same units on the left over license tag every year unless the DOW cuts the number of tags.
Not too confusing after doing it for 25 years.
Fri, 2011-07-22 12:59#3
similar but different
No, it's not the same every year. For instance, unit 33 2nd season deer, which has been a leftover for the last 10 years did not make it to leftovers this. Tag quotas change every year, and another important series of units, the Bear Ears units: 3,4,441 and 214 traditionally have a ton of leftover cow tags, not this year. Also, the Flat Tops traditionall have huge numbers of leftover cow tags, those were also slashed this year.
Most of the licenses on the list are cow tags, the code will be E for elk, then F for female, then a unit code, say 062 for unit 62, then a public or private code, O for open, P for private land only or W for Ranching for Wildlife, then a season number like 2R meaning 2nd rifle.
The OTC 2nd and 3rd season tag is not on here, that is an unlimited tag, not a limited tag.
BUT, it's fair to assume most of these units will be the same next. You won't need to worry about it if you are buying OTC elk and are drawing for a deer tag.
Fri, 2011-07-22 13:17#4
Thanks guys, looks like you
Thanks guys, looks like you each replied at almost the same time, with the same information. The way you broke it down makes alot of sense.
Exbio, do you think I will draw deer in 62 with 1 point? I want it for the overlapping season with elk, which I think would be 1st season deer, 2nd season elk, in October. Correct?
Fri, 2011-07-22 14:20#5
they call it 2nd season for both
The first deer season is the 2nd elk season, and is easier to draw. Not sure on your odds, so I'll break it down here for one point based on the 2011 draw odds for DM062O2R:
There are just 395 tags in 2011, 117 of which is the quota for nonresident applicants. There were 350 first choice applicants, their point break down went as follows:
1 with 7 points, 1 with 5 points, 4 with 4 points, 7 with 3 points, 80 with 2 points, 125 with 1 point and 132 with 0 points. So, that took 93 out of 117 tags right off the top that you couldn't have draw, leaving just 24 tags for 125 people with 1 point, so your draw odds would have been 19.2%. That's not good. I know you started planning this last year, I'm curious how the odds have gotten worse.
In 2010 there were 440 tags and 354 nonresident applicants, in 2009 there were 520 tags. So, your odds would have been better then. Right now, I'd say you need two points to draw that unit, but you never know, this coud be a bumber crop year for fawns (though it seems like it's been pretty dry in the Southwest), and they could increase license numbers.
If you're sold on hunting in 2012, then you'll also need a 2nd choice unit in an OTC area, or you'll be elk hunting only and sitting on two preference points for deer.
Sorry, I hadn't looked into this this closely before
Fri, 2011-07-22 14:58#6
No biggie. The good news is,
No biggie. The good news is, I am only getting OTC elk. So, I apply for the deer, and wait for the draw. If I get the deer, I go. If I don't, I make my decision if I want to wait until the following year, or just go for elk only.
I wonder if there's a different zone where I could have a better shot at a deer draw, and still have a shot at elk? The only reason I was sold on 62 is because of the friend's family, who harvests a couple animals each year, and was going to help me out.
Fri, 2011-07-22 18:52#7
I have been very fortunate
I have been very fortunate over the years and I have only needed to use the leftover list to try and pick up any extra doe or cow tags that may still be available for my unit. there have always been some for about the last 7 or 8 years now and it's the only way to kill two deer or elk out here.