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focus your search

You need to focus on units that you can actually draw. Muzzleloader is extremely difficult (also make sure you know we don't allow optical sights or sabots or pelletized powder here) to draw. It's not just unlikely, but truly impossible for you to draw any of those Flat Tops units with 0 points if you want the either sex license. In fact, I don't believe there are many options that you can draw with 0 points for a bull. Look at the minimum pref points required, only a handful of bull tags can be drawn and no either sex tags: Units 7/8/19/191 Unit 29 Units 44/45/444/47 Unit 50 Unit 51 Unit 86 The draw odds listed in the drawing summary are completely worthless. They do not factor in preference points. In order to figure out your odds, you need all three draw stats summaries: the hunt recap, the drawing summary especially, while the minimum point summary is optional. If you don't like those options, and if muzzleloader season is the only season you can hunt, consider archery hunting instead.

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Thanks for the heads up on

Thanks for the heads up on the ml specs. I'd read that on the Co site.

I know I can't draw an EE tag, but thought I could get a point and then concentrate on a second being a cow ML in one of the areas I'd mentioned. I agree, you have to review so much info to get to the meat of the unit options, if you will. Would I be better off to skip the pref point via applying for an EE tag and just try for a cow mL as a first choice instead?

Unit 11 is 100%, but I don't think that unit would be good in ML. Thinking more along the lines of 24, 55, and some others I'd mentioned. I think I need to be at a higher elevation this early in the year. What are your thoughts on these options?

 

Thanks again for your reply. I am learning a lot trying to figure this out.

 

Bill

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not necessarily

unit 11 still has plenty of elk in the scrub oaks early in the season.  Look at the harvest stats, people still kill them in archery and muzzleloader season.  Not all elk are migratory.

 

However, you may enjoy the wilderness units a lot more than a BLM heavy unit in that you'll have some backcountry, no ATVs, classic dark timber and timberline country and all that.  That doesn't mean you're more likely to kill, but it might be more of the country you're looking for.

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Thanks! I'll take this into

Thanks! I'll take this into consideration.

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Thanks for the info. What

Thanks for the info. What unit would you suggest for the "classic dark timber - low profile" hunting adventure in the high country? I'm literly torn between several at this point, but not quite knowing the country, makes it difficult.

Do you think it would still be ok to apply for a EE to obtain a point as a first? If not, I run the same risk next year applying.

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I understand. I'm the same

I understand. I'm the same way. I've already changed my tags 5 times. I wish April 3rd would come so I can relax.

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Bump. Exbio. What do you

Bump. Exbio. What do you think of my suggestion?

Thank you very much for the reply.

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that's fine

Definitely fine to take a shot at a harder to draw tag as long as you are smart about your 2nd or later choices.  Don't hang your hat on the either sex tag.

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Agreed. I understand that I

Agreed. I understand that I will NOT get an EE tag. I am focusing all of my efforts on the 2nd and 3rd choices for the Cow tag.

I sent you a PM with my details. I'd appreciate any insight you have.  Thanks again!

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A BIG thank you to everyone

A BIG thank you to everyone who has helped me through my learning curve with the Colorado Elk Drawing Process.

After being through it, it really was not all that bad once I understood everything...thanks to everyones advice and some of the great folks at the Co DOW.

Now I have conquered Wy and Co. Where to next year!!!  Whistling

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