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Colorado Elk Help

My son (16yr) and I are planning and hoping to make the draw on Co elk this fall. Due to scheduling conflicts, I am forced to muzzle loader, which I love. Dancing

Looking at the 2010 stats, EE-ML is hard to come by. However, I have formulated the following and would love to get the opinion of you more experienced with the Co draw and furthermore the geography, since I am over 2,000 miles away in eastern Ohio. We would like to camp about 1 mile from nearest road. Weather should be descent this time of year. We'd love a EE tag, but would settle for gaining a point, learning the area for future hunting with a cow tag. However, we'd like to be in one of the higher elevation areas this early in the year since the snow and hunters will not be impacting the elk yet. We will have fun camping and seeing the rockies! But seeing some elk would be nice as we learn the area. While in the NW area of Co, we can learn the lay of the land much easier!

In doing my research, I've grown fond of DAU 6. Since the regs changed a few years back, I now have to dial into a specific GMU. Here are my thoughts:

1st choice:  EE01201M   Odds are >20%

2nd choice: EF0121M     Odds are 80%+

3rd choice & 4th are interchangable based on my limited info: EF01101M 100% or EF03301M 90%.

I've heard good things about Flattops wilderness area & Jensen Sate Wildlife Area. Just not sure where they are located. I think in northern GMU 12...

 I am open to other options as well, so don't just focus on my choices due to lack of experience this early in the game.

Any input would be much appreciated. We drove and had a great time in Wy last year, now we are addicted! The eastern whitetails just aren't enough anymore! Wish I'd went out west sooner.

 

I'm feeling stressed due to running out of time before the applications are due. Work has been killing me. I'm actually out of town for work in a hotel doing my research right now! Priorities! 

OK, blast away! Whistling

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Um, a couple things...

Hi Bone.  You won't be able to pull an either sex ML tag with no points as a non-resident.  Both the either sex and cow tags will take points for a non-resident to draw:  EE-012-O1-M was a 10 point non-resident tag last year, EF-0120O1-M was a 1 point tag last year.  You won't be able to pull either of these tags as a first choice let alone a second choice.

EF-011-O1-M would be an easy draw with any choice.  This tag has had leftovers the last 2 years (since they changed the statewide ML tags to specific units).

EF-033-O1-M was a 42% draw for a non-resident at 0 points last year (8 of 19 applicants) as a first choice.  That means you have a reasonable chance to draw, but not likely both of you would draw this tag.  

Hope this info helps some.  Good luck with your hunt and draw!

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Apply as a party would

Apply as a party would guarentee success as both being drawn right? Cow sucess in ML was good for 2011 in 33.

 I understand the EE tags being almost impossible with no points. I thought maybe I'd get lucky or at least gain a point for next year.

 

It appears that unit 11 must not be all that good since tags are left over the past 2 years?

Stats are better during rifle. Snow must push elk into unit 11 later on, perhaps.

 

thanks!

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Applying as a party would

Applying as a party would guarantee either both of you draw or neither of you draw.  Obviously, the more difficult the odds, say less than 50%, the more unlikely it becomes both of you will be drawn successfully as a party.

I've never hunted unit 11/211 during ML season.  IMO, unit 11 is better later in the year when the elk migrate down from the flattops.  Unit 211 has some good areas that hold resident elk, but there is a lot of private porperty in the better areas making some of the public lands difficult to access.  I would guess the hunting is challenging for muzzle season based on left overs.

Here is a link to a mapping tool that will help you get an idea of available public lands, GMU boundaries, etc.  I find it handy and use it to check out new areas I'm interested in.

http://ndismaps.nrel.colostate.edu/huntingatlas/

 

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What color represents the

What color represents the public land? I've seen this map in the past, but never fully understood it.

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With everything you've said.

With everything you've said. I'd take a cow as 1st choice. Enjoy the hunt, and some good tasting meat.

You'll need to pick a different unit though.

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I'm open to other areas. Unit

I'm open to other areas. Unit 55 cow sucess has been good in ML. Only issue is it gets me further away from Northern units, where it seems the elk populations are denser. But I could be wrong. My wife says so alot. lol

 

Just need to be sure we have enough public land to hunt.

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I almost suggested unit 55. I

I almost suggested unit 55. I live close to it. You should get a cow tag there easily. Lots of public land. It's a big unit. It's a popular unit, so it will be crowded, and it has tons of ATV roads to deal with.

It's a good looking area to hunt, and it has elk. I came very close to hunting it this year, but decided to stay in my home unit 481.

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Thanks for the quick replies.

Thanks for the quick replies. I don't mind some other hunter, but would like to be able to get away from the roads and ATV traffic after getting in a few miles.

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You can get away from the

You can get away from the crowd if you don't mind some hiking. A lot of them are road hunters.

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Still Hunter - That is what I

Still Hunter - That is what I hear a lot (road hunters). Hopefully that will be the case.

I'm still milling options. Northern GMU24 may be good as well. I've reviewed so much information I think my head is spinning. I'm a real planner by nature, therefore Colorado offer up so much data just feeds my frenzy! Confused

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