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I found this article to be interesting. Little of both views. I wonder how many of the people who are saying non-sense of possible gun restrictions went out and bought a gun, and applied for a permit to carry.

http://www.9news.com/rss/article.aspx?storyid=108491

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I think you have to do more than have completed a "firearms training" course in the last ten years. I think the course is designed specificaly to teach people applying for concealed carry how to safely and in a law abiding way, conceal carry. I've heard the course is pretty good. I know Colorado has a good hunter safety program. I don't have a permit but it's a good thing to have if you want to carry a pistol in the woods without offending all the hikers and bikers. Getting a carry permit is down the to do list somewhere.

http://www.coloradofirearmsafety.com/CCW%20Class%20Web.pdf

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I don't have a permit but it's a good thing to have if you want to carry a pistol in the woods without offending all the hikers and bikers.

If the pistol is concealed then how do the hikers and bikers know you have it?

And how does having the permit make it less offensive to them?

Is the answer that you can carry a non-concealed pistol legally now that the hikers and bikers would see and thus be offended but with the permit you can still carry it, but have it concealed?

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I think its wrong to deny an individual the right to carry concealed if they don't pass a test first. It is a step towards restricted use. Personaly I got my permit mainly because I sometimes carry a side arm hunting. In the colder months, my long jacket sometimes covers the handle or half the gun. I guess this is considered a gray area. Probably would not hold in court, but I wouldn't want to find out. I have had a freind who WAS asked for his permit while carrying his side arm hunting, and it was in open view in a hip holster. This was in the woods coming back to the truck.

I can somewhat see where you are coming from on the offensive issue. I don't think it is a matter of people taking offense though, as much as it is for some folks just becoming uneasy. Not all people care, but some would probably speak of it later and question the need, and that's where it all starts.

So for people who take offense or become uneasy, its just a matter of not being educated in their rights and possible need to carry for defense or even a survival situation.

The main point in the article is the consistant mass applications of permits after the vote.

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Once again, Civet's anti-gun agenda comes out via an assumption that seeing a sidearm would be "offensive."

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There are a heck of a lot of people that are terrified of guns and gun owners. Too much TV or too much tofu, I don't know. Whichever the case a concealed carry allows the issue never to come up. The GMU I hunt is heavily used by hikers and mountain bikers in the summer months.

Another thought. These same exact people are the people we need to support the rights of hunters and gun owners. Many of them have a veiw of hunters that is a charicature of negative stereotypes that they have gotten via media.

I personaly don't mind the background checks or educational classes. I've known a couple of people who had no business owning a firearm, and I know one person who was thwarted in getting one by the local police. He was shooting over peoples heads in an altercation way out of praportion to the situation. An idiot.

I wouldn't pigeon hole my views as anti gun so much as anti idiot.

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I personaly don't mind the background checks or educational classes. I've known a couple of people who had no business owning a firearm, and I know one person who was thwarted in getting one by the local police. He was shooting over peoples heads in an altercation way out of praportion to the situation. An idiot.

There is nothing wrong with background checks. They should be done. Its the law. I also think educational classes are a good way for someone who was not raised around firearms to properly get into it, and meet others interested who can help them. There will always be people like the one you mention, but that's why we have the laws we do. I'm assuming he was charged? If not, maybe there is more to the story.

I spent some time last hunting season bird hunting public land. I hiked alot of trails to get to spots I wanted to hunt. I also ran into lots of other people using the trails as well for biking, hiking, and wildlife viewing. You'd be amazed at how many stopped me to talk about hunting, and sometimes giving me good places to go. Not all people who share our trails are frightened of us. That is an illusion. It might be that you don't feel right about it, and are worried about what others are thinking of you carrying openly. In that case you may unknowingly give off vibes that make people uneasy. (maybe you think you're doing something wrong, so you look guilty).

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civetcat wrote:
I wouldn't pigeon hole my views as anti gun so much as anti idiot.

There's a whole lot I could say about that remark, but I'll just say that you've posted plenty on this site that shows that you think "gun owners" and "idiots" are one and the same, Mr. Semi Auto Converted Carbine.

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If your firearm is visible, as in a holster on your side or leg, you do not need a permit. Many hikers wear sidearms for a variety of reasons (snakes, predators, etc). If you wear it openly no permit is required. So saying that having a permit and concealing would somehow make other hikers more comfortable, doesn't make any sense. Plus when you're hiking, you want your sidearm readily accessible. It won't do you any good if its buried in your backpack.

You also don't need a permit to have firearms in your home, car, camper, etc.

If you do wish to carry a concealed firearm, its very easy to get a permit in Colorado. Take the class, apply at the local sheriff's and you're on your way.

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Civetwrote,

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Getting a carry permit is down the to do list somewhere.

It helps if you buy a gun first and maybe learn to use it. Im also sure it's WAY down on the bottom of that list.

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civetcat wrote:
Getting a carry permit is down the to do list somewhere.

Whats 1st on the list?..........Banning firearms so you wont need a CC permit?
or is it posting nonsense on Hunting website forums? Evil!

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