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cleaning thread?

Ok.  I've purchased the rifle, it's due in a few weeks hopefully.  I've purchased the scope.  I'm picking it up Monday.  I've bought a Lucas bore guide to fit a Tipton cleaning rod.  But now what?

I still need all sorts of essentials to clean the rifle.  Solvents, brushes, pads, etc..  I was going to buy a scope mounting kit, but realized it wasn't necessary.  I have a friend that has the tools for that allready.  Should I buy a cleaning kit or a can I just get what I need and be done with it?  Cause I really don't see the purpose in throwing money down on items in a kit I may never even use. 

Are some brushes, solvents better than others as manufacters advertise?  If I went w/ Tipton, I would think that'd be ok I suppose? 

I'm not getting a bench rest, I'm just going to use sand bags at the range.  I'm pretty sure I'll be able to be just as accurate,  just might not get as many rounds thru before my arm tires out.

I'm going to buy a wooden vice.  Only for personal preference.  I'd much rather make my own but.....oh well,  it can be a project for later. 

I still need a case, shooting sticks, trigger lock, and probably a whole laundry list of other items. I have yet begin to aquire what's needed to start reloading my own ammo so far.  I'm going tomorrow to sit down with a veteran whose been reloading as long as I am old.  He doesn't reload any rifle ammo, but I'm sure I'll be able to glean some knowledge out of our conversations.  I'm buying Nosler's new handbook tonight after work.  I could probally just print off information somewhere for just my particular caliber,  but I need to learn anyway so it would be useful in that sense.

 

 

Oh, I almost forgot. Is there already a good forum thread that would relate to this.

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Cleaning supplies comes down

Cleaning supplies comes down to a personal preference.  I have a assortment of both brass and nylon bore brushes in the calibers that I need along with the proper size patches for swabbing the bore.  For cleaning I have been using Barnes CR-10 and it works wonders on the copper fouling when shooting their bullets.  I have also use gallons of Hoppes #9 before I started to use the Barnes the last couple of years.  That along with a good gun oil will take care of you for quite a while.  I also purchased a fishing tackle box to store all the assorted pieces to my gun cleaning supplies so that I would know where they were located at when I needed them instead of having to go through a box or drawer. 

For the rest of the stuff on your list I don't worry about shooting sticks.  I just find them something else that needs to be packed around and if you learn how to shoot from different positions and learn to use what is available when you take a shot they really are unnecessary unless you are taking real long shots where you either can't get another rest or see over what you are standing in.  But I have found that in most of those instances you can move a little and find a rest.  Your rifle also may come with some kind of trigger lock, I know that a lot of manufactures and supplying them with the firearm.  A good travel case is always nice to have, both a soft case and a hard case if you plan on getting using public transportation such as a plane. 

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That's good advice to me

That's good advice to me Critter.  Thanks.  Like I know I've said before, the less stuff I've got to carry the better.  I didn't like the way the thumb hole slings looked, and seriously doubt I'd end up getting one even if it is useful.  I'm going to go the way of the simple military style and call it a day on that.

Now the cleaning supplies.  I guess I'll just have to piece em' all together.  A tackle box isn't a bad idea.

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Let us know once you have a

Let us know once you have a few rounds through the new rig!

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count on it!

I sure will.

I also wonder if I'm gonna have to add a picture of a bruise on my arm that I got from it.  The way most talk about the recoil it has.  I'll either have one from the recoil.  Or from shooting a few boxes just out of the excitement to finally take aim with it!

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My choice for barrel cleaning

My choice for barrel cleaning is shooter choice for powder removal and wipe out for copper removal. Wipe out works very well and won't hurt the barrel. As for how often to clean? Let your barrel and it's accuracy tell you when it needs to be cleaned. Some barrels can only go 20 or so rounds before accuracy drops off and others will go much longer.

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am i missing anything?

my list entails; Tipton cleaning rod, Lucas bore guide, Hoppe's #9 solvent, Hoppe's #9 grease, Hoppe's field wipes, Tipton nylon bore brush, Tipton bronze brush, Tipton chamber swab (are these really necessary?), Otis cleaning brush, Tipton jag, rags, and degreaser. I know this is boring stuff, sorry, I'm just trying to save myself the frustration of sitting down to clean the rifle for the first time and realize I'm missing something. Oh yeah! The rifle came in yesterday!!! I'm picking it up along with the scope on Wed.!!! I can hardly stand it.

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Only item I do not see listed

Only item I do not see listed is a good copper remover once you get to shooting. Other than that it looks like your bases are well covered.

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cleaning supplies

There is lot's of good stuff out there for gun care and even a lot of really good stuff not originally marketed for guns. Here's what I've adopted based on my experience with various gun care products, for routine cleaning:

Rods - brass or aluminum (NO steel, no matter how well coated they are).

Bore brushes - any good brand as long as they are bronze phosphore and sized correct

Jags - plastic and brass, slotted and piston shaped, sized correct.

Stiff bristle tooth brush.

Picks - made from plastic, brass, or copper (plastic ones are more easily available at gun shops these days)

Q-tips

Pipe Cleaners - the cotton/nylon stiff bristle ones that they sell at real tobacco shops (not the fuzzy decorative type from craft stores)

Shop towles, cotton rags, cut-up cotton t-shrts, etc

Cotton patches - sized for the bore you are cleaning.

Hoppes No.9 Nitro solvent 

WD-40  (I know I'll get flamed for this suggestion)

Gun Oil (I like either RemOil, FP-10, or Kano Microil)

Nitrile surgical gloves

Air compressor with nozzle tip, or canned air

I use Hoppes 9 as a solvent only in my rifle barrels, and only because the small amount of ammonia in it helps keep the copper fouling within check.  Everything else gets hosed down and cleaned with WD-40 (rifle bolt assemblies, rifle receivers, all parts of my shotguns, all parts of my pistols, etc). It cuts crud and fouling well enough. I just make sure I blow it all out with an air compressor and wipe down the parts dry when I'm done.  Run a few dry patches through to dry up the bore.  Apply a very light thin film of gun oil on all the moving parts.  Reassemble the gun and I'm back in business.

As Critter said Barnes CR-10 is a great copper remover, best used with an aluminum rod, a nylon bore brush, or cotton bore mop.  I use it very occasionally in my rifles and only after every few hundred rounds, and only after a few thousand rounds out of my pistol barrels.  In my experience most rifles shoot more accurately with some amount of copper fouling in them.  After I do a complete copper removal in my rifles I always need to send a half dozen rounds through before my groups tighten back up.  

 

 

 

 

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I am forever searching for a

I am forever searching for a better and easier way to clean my firearms. A couple of years ago a member here asked about the Bore Squeeg-E cleaning set up. While I have never used it I have watched the video and find them quite interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt_yoivSK60

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different methods

I hear ya Critter.  That's an interesting product.  I believe I saw where Remington is now marketing this kit.  Never have seen the need for squeegee type jags, but the idea of abrasive compounds for cleaning a bore is nothing new at all.  JBs Bore Paste has been around a while and is fairly popular.  I have no idea why some shooters think they need to use abrasive compounds for routine cleaning, seems like that's going to real extreams.  But I have used JB's after several thousand rounds in some bores.  It's good to keep an abrasive compound on hand, but I generally avoid using them unless absolutely needed. The really stubborn caked-on carbon fouling gets removed by a good soaking of Kroil in my gun barrels when needed.

I've read a lot of false claims on another forum from self-proclaimed "experts" saying that you should never ever use stuff like mineral oil, kerosene, or naphtha on guns as they were never intended for firearms.  They also claimed that you can permanently ruin a gun by using that stuff on a firearm, while at the same time they adimently recommended you should only use stuff like Hoppes No.9, Shooter Choice, or Ballistol, etc (all either kerosene, mineral oil, naphtha based products).  I just have to laugh at the terrible total ignorance out there.  

I talked to a guy a long time ago who had been employed by a couple high dollar Safari outfits in Africa at one time or another He claimed they all clean their expensive European safari rifles with nothing more that diesel fuel over there. I think when it comes to gun cleaning too many people way over-think this stuff.  There is just so much misinformation out there to confuse newcomers to shooting. It's very unfortunate.

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