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Changes in Vermont next year

I think the early season is great.  MY dad sees does all the time during archery and rifle, but by the time he gets to the ML season in December, the deer have moved on and changed habits.

From burlingtonfreepress.com

"Changes coming

Vermont deer hunters are likely to see a change in deer hunting regulations next year. It appears likely that the Vermont Fish and Wildlife Board will give approval to a 4-day antlerless-only muzzleloader season in October."

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That would be cool!  The

That would be cool!  The whole downside of the Vermont muzzle loading season is that you have to find a buck. 

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Well, not really Mike.  They

Well, not really Mike.  They have tons and tons of doe permits for muzzleloading in Vermont.  They actually had bunches of leftover tags this year.

Maybe you were thinking rifle season?  That's when you can only shoot a buck.

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maybe

I may be confused. 

Is it that you Can't shhot a buck with balck powder in Vermont?

I know I looked into it once and thought it was a screwed up system. 

But maybe its changed since I checked?

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Mike, you can only shoot a

Mike, you can only shoot a buck during ML season, unless you have a doe tag.  However, they give out tons of doe tags now, especially in the units near where my Dad lives and hunts, so it's essentially a given, as long as you apply.  So, as long as it's not a spikhorn, you can shoot anything.

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You guys should look around

You guys should look around the web at the number of negative comments on hunting VT. The state has been handing out doe tags like candy for 5 years now and the numbers are fading fast.

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Well, you can search the web,

Well, you can search the web, or take it from someone who hunts there.... Wink

Vermont has a good deer population.  However, you will find a wide range of opinions on all different subjects.  It's too many doe permits, or too few.  We're seeing more deer than ever, or less.  The AR's are a great thing, and we're seeing more big bucks, or they are horrible and we should get rid of them.

Personally, where we hunt, the hunting is just about the same as it always has been.  My Dad sees plenty of Doe during archery and rifle, and when they get to muzzleloader when he has a permit, they disappear.  It's not like the days when they had doe tags for the general rifle season.  They still only give them out for muzzleloader, which has relatively few people hunting compared to rifle, and the actual harvest numbers are low.  There is little to no effect on the herd from doe permits.

The biggest detriment to the deer herd, in my eyes, is habitat loss and winter weather.  If you have a few mild winters in a row, you will see deer kills and sightings go up.  If you see some severe winters, deer kills will go down.  It's pretty simple.  The old timers, who were opposed to the doe permits in the 80's, are the same ones chiming in now.  I have not been able to shoot a buck in a few years, but I am not blaming it on the doe permits.  That's pretty silly, IMO.

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Thanks for the info

Thanks for the info.  I'm real close to VT (I can see teh mountain tops from my front window) but an out of state tag is a little steep.  There is one farm that I can hunt turkeys on in VT, but I can't quite justify the cost of a non-resident tag just for turkeys.  Most of the deer season I'll be hunting in NY anyway so I haven't bothered with a Vermont license except when I drew my moose tag. 

The more that I think about it though - it might be worth it.  I do have a friend who has invited me to deer hunt some land that he has access to too.

I'm going to have to give it some strong consideration for future seasons....

Mike

 

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Not sure what you consider

Not sure what you consider "steep", but I think Vermont is one of the better nonresident prices out there.

You can get a hunting license for the rifle season, which comes with a deer and bear tag, for about $95.  That's it. 

If you want to hunt all seasons, archery, rifle, muzzleloader, etc., it's only $350 or so.  I say "only" because compared to what I am used to for out of state tags out west, that's dirt cheap.

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Vt. Doe tags

Ca and Mike;

That discussion has been going on for a long time on rather to give doe tags or not. Sometimes I think that the state's only looking to put extra money in the state then I see the population and agree there's alot of doe's around and the ratio is way off. A good number of buck were taken this year and good size to proving the no spike does work if given a chance. Face it, more doe's, more spike's, more deer in the future. Now, I would apply for a doe tag in my area without hesitation where I can't vouce for other area's because I've seen way to many doe's, like it or not.

This year was the first year in 39 years that I did not buy a Vt License as I moved to NY a couple years ago. Now that I'm retireing and moving back to Vt. I will purchase one again. I've taken many many deer in Vt and love to hunt there but I just didn't have time this past year but watch out next Dancing . Ready Mike??

Thats My opinion only.

 

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First, welcome to the site! 

First, welcome to the site!  Glad to see another one here with Vermont hunting experience.

Nice photo, but I had to laugh, that you said the no-spike rule is working, and you post a photo of you with a spike lol

I am one that does not agree with the AR's that were instituted.  I feel that they were put in place by a vocal minority, that think that Vermont can become like Texas or something, and have hunters see 10-15 buck in an evening and decide which boone and crockett deer to shoot.

Fact is, the majority of the hunters in Vermont are happy with whatever deer they can get, and when we took away spikes, we took away about 30% of the deer kill.  To me, that translate to 30% less happy people.

But, we can debate that till the end of time.  Again, great photo, and welcome!  Look forward to hearing about and seeing some photos of your success!!! Thumbs up

Oh, and I really like the gun.  What model?

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