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Care package from her daddy

Got a pretty hefty package in the mail today from Alaska. Girlfriend's dad sent down a bunch of brass and bullets, and I'm kind of not even sure where to begin. It would be nice to not have to buy any additional bullets, but I'm not sure I'm gonna be able to get away with it. Katie has deer, elk and antelope tags that we are going to try to fill. The antelope hunt will be antelope only, and there is enough time to resight in between that hunt and her 2nd season deer/elk combo, followed by her 4th season cow elk hunt. Her dad has not sent me any load data, but implied that her gun shot well with 165 Accubonds.
She has a Tikka T3 .308. We've shot up some factory Core Lokts for brass, giving us 60 pieces of Remington once fireds.

Now, in the package I've got about 45 pieces of 2x fired, neck turned Federal brass, 50 pieces of once fired Hornady Match brass, and 50 pieces of Winchester unfired brass.

For bullets, he sent 25 165 Grand Slams, 17 165 Partitions, about 50 pulled and nose dinged 150 Accubonds (which may have been what he was really shooting in that gun), roughly 100 150 grain Pro Hunters, roughly 75 150 grain Hot Cores, and about 100 130 grain Horndady Spire Points.

In my stash, I also have 110 grain Sierra hollowpoints, but that's all I have for 30 cal bullets that I'd use in her gun. The 190 Hornadys are meant for another buddy's .30-06.

Kinda don't know where to begin with all of this. Load up a plinker load, antelope load, and deer and elk load? Just use the two types of 165s in a quick test or two, then rock on with that bullet for everything? Of course I'll have to buy additional bullets if we do go with one of those. Not sure there's any way around not buying additional 165s or other elky bullets here. Any other thoughts on the brass? I'm all ears

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I would work something up

I would work something up with the Partitions, for a .308, powders I would work with would be 4831 or possibly 4350.  Those two powders always worked well with my 30-06, I would think they'd work well in a .308 also.  Another powder choice would be RE-19.  Based on what game you're hunting, I would go for velocity over sub-MOA groups.  A lot of guys try to get sub-MOA groups to reduce the margin of error in shooting.  But, since you're going after Elk, I'd focus on working up a load that produced 2700 f.p.s. and would consistently shoot >5" groups at 300 yds.  My theory to this is this: you'll most likely be taking a 250 - 300 yd. shot at the antelope, say 200 yds. at Elk & Mule deer.  Based on your previous posts over the last few years, I assume you're a pretty accomplished marksman/hunter.  Therefore, I assume your girlfriend can shoot also.  If you're getting 2700 fps. with a Partition, should you hit bone, you should still have enough energy to get through it and penetrate vitals also.

One note of caution should you choose the partitions, the earlier one's made by Nosler would sometimes have core seperation.  Make sure that what he sent you isn't old.  If they were made in the late 90's or after, you'll be good to go.  If made ealier, do some research and ask if the lot number is one that experienced core seperation.  I never saw it myself, but I heard friends talk about it.  Hope this helped.

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as for brass, I suggest

as for brass, I suggest working with the remington, unless it was fired from a different rifle.  If so, use the winchester brass.  It may not be formed to her rifle, but at least you don't have to reform it all then reform to her rifle.  As for primers, Federal 210 unless you can find a match primer somewhere.  I haven't found one in Colorado yet.

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I would probably just stick

I would probably just stick with the 165gr as a hunting load and use the rest for plinking.  The 165/168 gr seems to be a sweet spot for most 308's.  All the used brass you have should be fine, run it through a cleaner, full length size it.  

Varget, Benchmark, and BL-C2 are good powders for 308.  You can find a bunch of data to match your various bullet collection here:

http://data.hodgdon.com

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308's

I've had two, one was my go to rifle for a long time. Both of them prefered 165 and 180gr bullet's. Primer's didn't matter enough to make a difference really but powder did. Best powders for me were BLC/2, IMR4064, IMR3031 and W748. Didn't seem to matter which of those I used. I never tried slower powder's with any bullet but had I maybe I could have got thos 150's to shoot. But the load I finally used for everything was a 165gr with any of the above powder's.

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Better late than never.

Heres a proven game smasher load for a .308 win

45.0gr of H4895 (This is a compressed load) and 150gr Hornady SST, @ COAL of 2.750"

Winchester brass and winchester LR primer

 

You can even use a Hornady GMX with it but hold back .5 gr powder, even though they say you dont have to but its just to long of a bullet for that compressed load.

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Well whats the load you

Well whats the load you decided on???

We played with the 150gr GMX's and used 45gr of H4895 @ 2.775"

and 150gr SST with 45gr of H4895 @ 2.750"

Both shot well but my buddy has to use the GMX for California.

The season starts Sat 9-17 so we'll see what he does for deer?

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Varget and Partitions

Going with 46 gr Varget and 165 Partitions.  Not gonna fool around with a bunch of different loads for different game.  But I did use a bunch of those 150 Sierras for light target loads with extra powder I had laying around like IMR 4007.

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Cool

        Well my buddy smashed a nice Ca D7 buck with that GMX load and he said it dumped it in its tracks. 

I'll get some pics and post them.

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cool

gotta love any kind of success coming out of the D zones

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Good luck Exbiologist.  I

Good luck Exbiologist.  I have about 21 days 'til I head to Durango for my Elk hunt. 

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