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Location: Utah
Joined: 02/24/2003
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Used to rifle hunt around Bountiful and Scipio but too many people and too few deer. The last few years I've been bow hunting around Beaver and doing the extended area hunts around Salt Lake and Vernal. Haven't spent much time in the cache valley. I did shoot a cow elk up there about 10 years ago, I can't remember the name of the unit it was a CWMU anyway.

Any deer up there? The deer seem to be hurting all over the state. Down by Beaver just 3 years ago there were deer all over and I'd always hold out for a bigger buck. Now days I'm tempted (even though I never do) shoot that little fork horn you always see on opening morning.

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Location: N. Utah
Joined: 04/01/2004
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I have been hunting cache for two years now. Used to hunt Monte Crisco on private property for three years. managed a two point a two by three and a four got the four on public land in buck springs. allot of people hunt it though. so went more north to cache. you have to get off the roads to find a decent animal. at least a good mile away from all the roads hunters. have a nice 4x5 took two years ago. last year could not get a shot so ended up over by soapstone and shot a two point. this year I'm back in cache again. will have to work a little harder at being a little slower in the walking. I jump quite a few deer all the time. i will say I always fill the tag.

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Location: Colorado
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Wow, I'm blown away to hear that it costs that much for one resident tag in UT!

This is precisely what I'm concerned about (besides not meeting population objectives) in CO w/ all the blabbering about pushing out more NR's. By the way, at $280 your over the costs to come to CO and shoot a cow.

While this is getting off-topic, I wonder what kind of processes are in place to regulate DOW/DNR budgets. If (and hopefully not when) costs get to be that high for a resident CO, I'd be asking what in the bloody blue blazes do the departments need THAT much money for?

In other words, if hunters are the only ones that pick up the tab for wildlife departments (this is the way it mostly is in CO), tag buyers and only tag buyers should have more direct control over budgeting. For instance if you are looking at tag costs nearly doubling it seems the onus is on the department to show exactly where year-over-year costs are doubling in their budget.

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Location: N. Utah
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I'm not sure but I would say Utah Is probably one of highest in the Rockey mountain region. Yes it would be nice to see t where all this money goes. lets say maybe for new trucks every year. Higher pay, I believe they have been cutting back on personnel. i do see some road improvements going on, and new signs If people would just stop destroying them. They have their own little private wildlife preserve on antelope island. with buffalo, and deer their is a lot of money spent on this Island it is located in the middle of the great salt lake, By the way this tag for a buffalo cost $1105.00 for resident, and $408.00 for any where else in the state. So you can see this island is their little baby. Up north in the cache area there is Hardware Ranch, a safe haven for the elk when the season starts. You will see the elk migrate in their on opening day.
WE can't forget about the fishing here, not one of the best in the region. But we sure do spend an allot of money for it. Of the few people that I know will go to Idaho, Wyoming, and Colorado for their fishing needs. Then we have the camping sector. The campgrounds are getting improvements but then this will cost you between $10.00 and $15.00 a night to stay anymore. their seems to be a higher rate every year for something. except our paychecks. Now cost of livening raise here.

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Location: Appalachian Mtns
Joined: 03/22/2004
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Well I noted that the checks I sent in for the either sex draw were cashed
but does that mean that we got the TAGS?? lol lol

looking at Colorado for this hunt!! 8) 8)

Big smile :( :-? 8) lol eye roll Wink

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Location: Powderhorn, Colorado
Joined: 04/07/2003
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They cash all checks before the draw. Thats why the DOW makes $2.1 million every year in interest money, which goes into their coffers. eye roll
Good luck!! Big smile

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swollen tongue wrote:
Thats why the DOW makes $2.1 million every year in interest money, which goes into their coffers.

That's interesting. Are you quoting from a DOW budget? I'd like to know where they invest the money and what percent return they get.

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Location: Powderhorn, Colorado
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This comes from the budget info and financial statement in the annual report of the DOW listed in the Colorado Outdoors magazine. It is actually $2.9 million in FY 02-03 from interest. You will have to ask them what they invest in.
License revenue was $60,654,392, so it does not take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Then add all the applications for the draw that did not draw and the fees they held for 3-4 months.............$$$$ eye roll

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