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OK. what bullet's do you like and why?

The quick answer for me would be, whatever shoot's well. But like most probally have over the year's, I have developed preference's. I'm not taken by the newer custom bullet's. For 99% of all the hunting we do, I believe they are over built and they are way over rated.

For instance, if you shoot a deer with a 120 gr 25 cal partition at 300 yds will it really do a better job than a 120 gr bal tip if a proper shot is taken? I don't think so. The same can be said about all cartridges. For decades, 180 gr bullet's from a 30-06 have been shooting thru deer. What lead's anyone to believe that a bonded core or partition will kill any better in the process of shooting thru? Some make the case for custom bullet's penetrating better at long range but as velocity slow's down, standard bullet's are't going to come apart as easy either. Maybe the bonded and copper bullet's will actually retard expansion. The copper bullet's have been made with small hollow point's and those I've found to be unreliable in opening. In fact I read a paper by an Afircan PH that claim's the largest percentage of bullet failure is with the Win. Fail Safe and Barnes X bullet's. Both are going to poly tip's this year.

I like the Hornady Inter Loc and Speer hot core bullet's. I like the way they look, the way they shoot, their price and if one has ever failed me, I don't know about it. I've shot everything from varmit's to elk and black bears with them, no problems.

For varmit's I like Hornady's and Sierra and recently have been having good luck with Nosler bal tip's. Hornady 75 gr V-Max in my 243 shed's everything going thru my 2" styrofoam target backer. Sierra is the most constently accurate bullet's I've ever shot and always seen to be a bit soft. Nosler bal tip's are shooting well, 243 dia 70 gr, but I've had a phobia about Nosler for year's. Still I'm trying them and like them so far.

So, what do you guy's like and why?

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I like Old dogs, Children & Watermelon Wine..

My favourite bullet is the Nosler boat tailed ballistic tip for mainly three reasons:
Bullet doesn't deform in my drop down mag.
The ones I retreived from animals had expanded perfectly
I like the bright yellow tip

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Before reloading I used to be a Winchester silver tip user. I have seen these bullets fail. I shot a large buck (14 pt about 210 field dressed) with a 308 win with 180 gr. silver tips at 20 yds in the shoulder and it disintegrated when it hit the shoulder. I believe the deer would have survived if I hadn't followed up with a another shot to the lungs. After that day I have erred on the side of caution and used heavier constructed bullets such as the partition and barnes tsx. I have never been in that exact situation again so I can't say how the new kids would work. In my 300 rum I have used the partition and barnes tsx with great results and am now working on a accubond load that has only been tested on the range.

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I like the bright yellow tip

Funny you should mention that Hammer. I use Hoppe's because I like the smell! Thumbs up

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For hunting. The bonded core bullet that shoots best out of that particular firearm.
Hot Core - 150gr & 180gr 308win, 30-06sprgfld
Interbond - 130gr 270wsm
Accubond - 180gr 300wsm, 140gr 270wsm

For plinking. Whatever is on sale. Usually Core Loks, by the bag.

For target and sighting. Interbond or Accubond. Whichever is flying the best.

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I like a regular old power point for deer and elk. I love the 50 gr. vmax for anything smaller. They've got a neat-o red tip!
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I like the Nosler AccuBonds. They have great weight retention. Work well in my .338WM and .257 Roberts!!

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While generic bullets from most manufactures will get the job done most of the time and there is nothing wrong with them in general, I prefer premium grade bullets for the following reasons:

* They have higher B.C.'s - making them more aerodynamic so they have higher velocity downrange for improved performance. (Example: Winchester 30-06 180-gr. AccuBond has more speed & energy at 240 yards than standard Super X 180-gr. bullet in 300 Win Mag at 240 yards - Source: Winchester's Website and 2005 catalog.)

* Higher quality control is maintained with Premium Bullets.

* 25% - 30% higher price is justified by having more margin of error for odd angled shots where extra penetration is needed.

* Very few rounds are expended on game, so one can easily afford a few dollars more for hunting in the field. Hence, practice with the cheap stuff and hunt with the Premium bullets.

* Lower percentage of wounded animals are probably the rule with Premium Ammo - generally speaking. Standard loads will work for anyone who is a good shot, but most hunters are not and Premium ammo provides an extra margin of error.

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Speer Hot-Core for Deer and Pronghorn
Speer Grand Slam for Elk
Even the standard Speer Hot-Core works well on Elk however.

All hunting requires a well placed shot. That's a given, no matter if you use standard bullets or premium. A hit on the rump or gut with a premium bullet isn't going to kill you game any quicker Brick Wall,)

I'm not totally convinced that a premium bullet is absolutely nessesary for Elk. I think that the bullet manufacturers are perfectly happy to have us believe that they are needed though. I do believe that they add that extra assurance and are needed for tough game such as Grizzlys, Polar Bear, Rhinos, and Elephants, but I've never hunted these large beasts

Elk have been taken with standard soft points in appropriate calibers for decades with no problem. In fact I wouldn't use a premium heavy bonded bullet on deer sized game unless that's all I had to use. The Grand Slam is as premium as I'll go, because I've seen them to be good all-around bullet. Plus I hunt for buck deer and cow elk in the same unit Big smile

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It isn't always a case of choosing one of the new "premium" bullets over one of the older proven designs.
I used Hot Cores for many years and, as far as I'm concerned, one of the best bullets made.
I can't get them to shoot worth a darn out of my new favorite rifles. My old Savage 30-06 and my old Remington 308 shoot them just fine but, the Browning 300wsm and the custom made 270wsm. Well, I just never know where they'll land.
The only difference between the Hot Cores and these new "premiums" is the Hot Cores are exactly what they are called. The core is poured hot and bonds to the jacket and they have a soft lead point.
Most of the new "premiums" are either electrically or chemically bonded and have the new poly tips to encourage expansion.

I take my hat off to Speer and their Hot Core. The mother of all bonded core, super premium bullets.

Iv'e read many a claim that the BC's of the new designs have increased retained energy. Therefore they are a better bullet.
This claim is factual but, there won't be any noticable difference at the 100 to 300yds that most game is taken with either, say a Hot Core or an Accubond.

If a guy was on a budget and could get the Hot Cores to shoot threw his favorite rifle. It wouldn't be necessary to spend the extra money on one of these "super premiums"

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I've found the same thing with Speer Hot Cores. They just don't seem to shoot as well as they used to. I don't think that OMARK and now BLOUNT are as quality conscience as Vernon Speer was. Have been usinf only Hornady's for years now but decided to try the Speer again a few weeks ago. They shoot just ok, no better! To bad, that was my favorite bullet.

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