______really think about what it says: any 1,000 ft/lb load will kill a deer? no matter the size be it 90 lbs or 300, where the bullet hits, angle, and on and on. It is one of the worst fallacies the media ever came up with, and to refute it further look at the stacks of old catridges that killed deer since they were created and you'll see they are not anywhere near the golden 1,000, and any round ball shooter knows that well too. ___________
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[ This Message was edited by: AdkGuidesForHire on 2003-03-26 22:34 ]
i believe that's why its called a "rule of thumb" not the "law of lethal kinetic energy". I know that even the .22 can be used effectively to kill deer - as long as you measure your shots in feet and not yards.
My dilemna is that admittedly I know very little about moose hunting; and have heard several calibres that I know people have used succesfully for moose listed as being under-gunned especially the .308 and .270. This suprised me.
I was wondering if there was such a guideline. I'll be a little more specific - since I've seen a similar post regarding elk rifles: what is the minimum cartridge for moose hunting capable of cleanly killing a moose at 100yds.
I think elk and moose fall in the same cartridge category. Look at the elk discussion and it will easily apply to your moose question. I would have no problem hunting moose with a 270. I wouldn't with the 308, just because I personally don't like the calibre, not that it wouldn't do the job.
Actually, I have shot 7 moose of various sizes all with .308 using an 180gr Nosler Partition. Six were clean profile lung shots: they walked 50yrds then droped. The 7th was a diagonal from behind liver/lung shot, he dropped on the spot. There isn't that big of a difference in the energy of a .308 and a .30-06 using an 180gr bullet...PC
Elk have been killed close to roads where they could be loaded whole into the bed of a pickup. But it doesn't happen often and I'm not sure that is the experience that I long for. The type of elk hunting that I prefer requires rigorous physical exertion that can cripple someone who is not in shape. Being a college hockey player I have to be in at least fair physical condition most of the year but when one of my buddies got back from the Navy Seals he changed the way I think about physical...