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bow hunting / rifle hunting why so different?

i got a few questions about bow hunting and gun hunting.why is it that bow hunters can go hunting with camoflage and gunners have to have orange.which i think both should have orange.and why bows get to go one month before gunners and if theirs a reason because they dont want both together why not switch every year. i got a bow and a licence and i got a gun to. i go hunting with my gun 90% of the time.what gets me is in my area the majority (not all) have or are getting bow licences just for they can get in the woods earlier. for they can get their deer earlier witout registering them then they will get their gunning licence and get a deer claim it for they can keep their venison.then some of the bow hunters not all in my area will get made if the partridge hunters (ME) go hunting in the woods during their season. love both bows and guns just wanted to talk about it a bit .love hunting fishing turtlecreek

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The camoflage vs blaze orabge requirement is for safety reasons. An arrow's effective range is maybe 60yds max, with it being dangerous (from a human injury point of view) slightly more - in any event a bow is very close range weapon. Also bowhunting is almost exclusively done from stands, meaning the hunter is sitting still, and usually from tree stands so the trajectory is down and into the ground.

A rifle bullet, on the other hand is deadly for several hundred yards and can carry for miles. Add in riccochet danger and it gets even more important for the shooter to be sure that no humans are downrange. Also rifle hunters are more likely to be stalking or tracking game - therefore unlike a stationary bowhunter who (hopefully) has a much better idea of what is around him, in rifle season its more likely that there could be another hunter on the other side of that bush, and if he's in orange its more likely that you'll see him.

Bowhunters are allowed more permissive seasons because its exponentially harder to be successful than with a rifle. It's not just the "getting close" part, its the getting close, drawing a bow without it spooking, getting a target aspect which will allow penetration, hitting the target, and tracking down the kill combined - any one of which going wrong can ruin your hunt.

In NS (lived there until 2 years ago) the bag limit is 1 whitetail deer per hunter per calendar year, regardless of how it's taken. If you get one with your bow, you're done deer hunting for the year...same if you get one with during the Liscombe/Tobeactic muzzleloader season. Anyone who gets one with a bow doesn't tag it and then goes out for a second with the rifle is poaching. I know that game enforcement in NS is practically non-existent aside from Atlantic Salmon and the opening week of deer rifle season, however the rules do exist and if they're caught they face very severe fines and penalties.

Given the work and effort that goes into bow hunting, I understand their frustration with partridge hunters/hikers etc tramping through their area. I have sympathy but at the end of the day, you have as much right to be partridge hunting as they do to be there bow hunting. Out of courtesy, I would try and minimize my impact on them, but ultimately that's one more reason why they have such a long season and you don't.

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thankyou for your replay. i fully understand what your saying ,and i respect that .how is the hunting up your way in ontario.is their alot of crown land that you can hunt on or is alot private that you have to get pemission.i did hear though that it was great fishing from people that moved out their from n.s. turtlecreek

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The hunting is awesome if you can get access. Very little crown land in our area, and so the few patches that exist are pretty crowded. I'm scrambling myself now because the arrangement I had with another guy here fell through. We have "philosophical differences" on certain ethical issues:

I think it's imperative to tag all deer we shoot, and stop hunting when we run out of tags...he thinks tags and bag limts are suggested guidelines. Brick Wall,)

I think its ethical to hunt and pursue one animal, taking your time and getting a clean, 1-shot kill, he thinks its more efficient to flush a bunch of them, blast away at as many as you can and then go find the dead ones - assuming they're not too far away Think

I think its absolutely unsafe to hunt while drunk/drinking. To him its "part of the experience"

Philosophical differences. I'm just glad I found all this out before the season started
Brick Wall,)

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Well explained moderator (for what that is worth to you) "{Bowhunting vs Rifle hunting" Thumbs up
I am from the Ottawa area also and know the numbers of deer you have.... May be able to inverstigate the Smith Falls/Carleton Place area for a spot to hunt and as you know there are a few there...One thing popular there that I have never done and am not sure if I agree with it is hunting with dogs..?????? I would have to be exposed to it before commenting..just interesting (don't think I would like it) who knows
My brother hunts in the Carleton Pl area and is impressed with the deer...Good racks but smallers body weight...no doubt there are brusers however

Scouting heavily here in NS, finally found some quality area to try, found an old orchard yesterday (always a good thing) and if I was looking for Choc raisons my freezer would be full (good deer activity) kind of .....wait now.....------crappy tasting though

On that note I will sign of for now
Good huntin all

R

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Dog hunting is big here - it's the local tradition. Basically its just a deer drive with dogs doing the driving under the control of a "dogger" . The Dogger and his dogs (how ever many, some drives are really big, with a dozen or more dogs and 2-3 doggers) move through the bush or cover making lots of noise and drive the deer toward a line of hunters who are set up in stands or blinds. Dogs are obviously better drivers than humans because they can sniff out a fresh track, and get through more tangled brush that deer use to evade normal drives. Really good dogs also understand the procedure and try to keep the deer in front of them and herd it .

It's not for me - but its defintely the traditional rural hunt here.

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