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Now if your a hardcore riffle hunter you may not want to read any further! Im a hardcore bow hunter that takes hunting to the extreme. Stalking big game that would make most drule! I have a big problem with riffle hunters and there carless anticts when it comes to big game hunting. I think it's so wrong when a riffle hunter brags about his 1000 yd shot at a deer. Or a 500 yd head shot at an elk. I mean give me a break. Can you even tell what the animal look's like at that distance? I also think it's sickning when you watch some of the hunting vid's and see guy's taking 6 shot's at an animal 600 yd away!!! Do they really think that's hunting? Try being 5 yd's from pissed off 7x7 rocky Mt elk that is coming to gang bust you!!! Dont need the high powered scope for that one! Now dont get me wrong about riffle hunting. I know alot of really respectable riffle hunter's that are to old to hoof it after big game. I just cant stand the city slickers that have no sence of wildlife managment no sence of saftey and no respect for hunters reputaion in general. I was up in the wood's cutting fire wood with a friend and 6 riffle hunter's come bomming by standing up in the back of a truck ready to kill anything that moved!! My buddy asked me "is that how you hunt?" I said no way. Thats what I mean about how people potray hunter's as being wild trigger happy killing machines. All the no hunting signs you see are generally meant for riffle hunters. Every farmer or land owner ive ever talked to with a no hunting sign say's "oh your a bow hunter. I put the sign up for them crazy riffle hunter's!" No joke either. I could go on forever about it but I think ive said enough already. Help protect our right to hunt and help protect the land we can hunt. Keep it safe and keep those shots close. Try 30 yds instead of 300 yds!

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there are a lot of hunters that hunt with a RIFLE(correct spelling), that dont appriciate that mentaility as much as you do, unfortunately it does happen. You could say the same thing about almost everything though. You could say the same about drinking, driving, fishing , boating everything. No matter what hobby you enjoy there is always going to be someone out there that makes the rest of the people that are also interested look bad. Thats just life. That being said thats why there are regulations and people to enforce the regulations. Now, I have seen the same for bow hunters in my area, Ive seen them baiting deer in with apples several times. But, I realize a couple unethical hunters dont make up the vast majority. As for the long range shots, I dont really hear too much about guys making 1000 yard shots at game, at the range thats something different as well. Shots of that range do requires skill beyond just a high powered scope. If you want to really complain about somthing start with the lack of a hunting season modern hunters have. If you look at your season and compare you should be happy that you dont have to be around those kinds of hunters during your season.

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This topic is hanging on the edge. Keep it civil. No slander.
Be sure that you can qualify your accusations with documentation.

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my apologies, i didnt mean to offend anyone or upset anyone, only expressing an alternate point of view. Sorry if anyone took offense.

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Cmon fuzzybear.... open discourse or not?

Bow hunters have had it "made" for years. Liberal regulations, long seasons. Seasons which are prior to other hunters chasing the game around. Seasons which allow hunter to bugle or rattle animals within bow range. No blaze orage. Try to do this during rifle season, ain't going to work. And the really sad part of these liberal regulations is that they benefit an unusual class of hunter. Mixed in with the bowhunting group, is a unique group of hunters who do not deserve these added benefits. Not many will talk about it, but 100% of the Felons in the state who hunt, bowhunt. So, Felons are benefitting from these liberal seasons and regulations. Strange turn of the table, huh?

I have shot game as close as bow hunters have while I rifle hunt.

Personally, I would like to see the seasons rotate between the user groups. Lets say we had an early, a mid, and a late deer hunt. Each season would have the same days long to hunt. Groups would rotate each year, IE: Muzzle, then Bow, then Rifle. Each year would rotate. This would give every hunting group the ability to enjoy the mixed blessing each time of year offers. If an area is branched bull, it would be branched bull for all users. In this plan, as I rifle hunt I would get the opportunity to call in a bull elk one year. Maybe hunt in the snow the next year.

Remember this, as it stands right now, Rifle hunters are really getting skrewed over with the shortest hunts. My muley hunt this year is what, 8 days long? How many days do bow hunters get?

Bowhunters also have guys who take marginal shots for sure. I have the proof of many a game animal lost to a poor bow shot. I have dozens of arrows that I have recovered, mixed in with scattered elk bones. I think we all have individuals in each hunter group who are not as ethical as most.

I also think that we should all work together as much as possible to retain our ability to hunt.

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Im with you on the seasonal rotation I thnk that it is insane that both bow hunter and muzzle loaders get extended seasons and modern hunters get less than a quarter of the time, and thats just deer season elk season is even worse. I have to work m-f so my elk season is one weekend and then its if you can even find them due to them being out of the rut and the hunting pressure from 2 months of prior hunting by archers and muzzle loaders. I think a fair comprimise would be maybe letting modern hunt with the muzzle loaders and then maybe we could have more than a week

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I think the original post alienates decent rifle hunters. I rifle hunt, and I also bow hunt. And I take a great deal of care and pride in both.

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I agreee the rotation would be for all species. All I am looking for is fairness. I just do not feel that it is fair that because I choose rifle, I get the least hunt opportunity.

Bowhunters are a serious bunch of individuals for the most part. Rifle may be the easiest way to hunt, considering the farther reach of a modern rifle. But, I take it very serious. I get as close as possible to game. Long shots are practiced, but seldom taken, seldom even given the chance, due to game being chased by the time rifle season rolls around, hunter pressure, and topography, not many really long shots in western washington...

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Im fairly sure this topic has veered off course but, non the less I think the first post was posted here to generate heated discussion and when they said bow hunters only what they meant was I want to trash rifle hunters. If they really wanted to only talk to archers then they would have posted in the modern archery side of things.

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I am a rifle hunter and a bow hunter. I've never understood the arguments of one vs. the other. Truly, we all want the same thing, which is the right to hunt for the rest of our lives and to pass that along to our children and grandchildren. To me, the arguments just seem too unproductive.

Let's keep the battle of words where it belongs. Against the people that want to take our rights to hunt and own guns away.

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Whelland wrote:
I am a rifle hunter and a bow hunter. I've never understood the arguments of one vs. the other. Truly, we all want the same thing, which is the right to hunt for the rest of our lives and to pass that along to our children and grandchildren. To me, the arguments just seem too unproductive.

Let's keep the battle of words where it belongs. Against the people that want to take our rights to hunt and own guns away.

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I too agree with this.

In my state, Utah, I am part of the dedicated hunters. To sum it up it means I can hunt every season Bow, Muzzy, and rifle. We are able to take 2 deer every 3 years. We also have to put in 24 hrs of time doing wildlife service projects.
I hunt all 3 hunts and have done so for 8 years.

I am on alot of outdoor fourms and this topic is brought up on everyone of them.
It is not the distance but the ability of the hunter and equipment that is used.
A Bow hunter taking a 30yard shot at game that he is only accurate up to 20 yards is like a rifle hunter taking a 400 yard shot at game when his ability is only 300 yards.

Now stop and think of it this way. Bow hunters started out with a long bow. Now they have compound bows that shoot 350 fps. Mabey the long bow hunter of old would think 20 yards with a 350fps bow is a bad thing.
Go wayyy back now.
Didnt cave men start killing their prey with rocks?
Wonder what they thought of them neanderthals using spears neener!

Again lets stop Brick Wall,) on a subject that is Shame on You! and be more productive Help! each other and saving all our rights as hunters and sportsman.

Russ

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