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Big trouble in Oregon!

Got this in an E-mail this morning then saw part on an Oregon/Washington outdoor site. This is scary!

http://www.leg.state.or.us/13reg/measpdf/hb3200.dir/hb3200.intro.pdf

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That looks similar to the one

That looks similar to the one that the Democrat controlled house and Senate here in Colorado is planning on passing.

I guess that they figure that if they can't restrict it on a federal level then they'll do it on the state level.

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Stay on them, New Mexico

Stay on them, New Mexico voted down a new york style bill last week. Not that it did any good but I emailed all the reps that would be voting and did get replies from a few that they voted no. At least some respond to their constituents. This was my first time to express my belife for somthing other than voting.The crazy thing all this stuff is doing is making me more & more conservitive & leary of the government.

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Update?

I hope you have more success in throwing this garbage legislation out than we did in Colorado.  I haven't read anything but do you have an update on where Oregon is on this bill?

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fight it

Fight it as hard as you can. Rally up people who side with you on these issues.  Hail storm your representatives with letters, phone calls, and emails telling them to represent you and your ideals. Send them corespondance once a week, twice a week if you have to.  Don't let what happend to us here in Colorado  happen to you guys.  As much opposition as we had here in Colorado to these bills, the majority of them passed and were signed by our democrat governor. The opposition was so great againstthis gun legislation that we even had 32 out of 34 county sherrifs vocally oppose it.  The County Sherrifs of Colorado Assoc even drafted a letter stating their stance on the issue and why they opposed it.  We even had sherrifs on radio commercials urging the people of Colorado to write their representatives and urge them to oppose these anti-gun bills.  It was clear that Colorado did not want this legislation, but we have a democrat senate and dem governor all influenced by Bloomberg and Biden.  Bloomberg won't give up, we need to oppose his agenda as much as we can. 

When a governor who signs these bills into law openly and publically admits during a radio interview with Mike Rosen a week later that some of these new laws will be impossible to enforce, yet he signed them anyway.....that's a clear indication to  me there their agenda has absolutley nothing to do with public safety, mental health, or protecting our children.  But it has everything to do with moving one step closer to banning guns.  We're onto them and they know it.  It's all about control. Why would anyone sign something into law that they know wouldn't be enforceable? Maybe Bloomberg twisted his arm.

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I did a quick search on this

I did a quick search on this bill and it looks like it is dead in the water. At least the politicians in Oregon listen to their constituents unlike the ones here in Colorado.

On another note there are two more gun control bills being introduced into the Colorado Senate. One has to do with domestic abusers which was pulled earlier this year and the other requireds in-person training for concealed-carry permits which I believe was also pulled earlier this year.

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when?

Critter,

When are these two bills going to be introduced again?  Did they revise either of them?

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WesternHunter wrote:

Critter,

When are these two bills going to be introduced again?  Did they revise either of them?

WesternHunter wrote:

Critter,

When are these two bills going to be introduced again?  Did they revise either of them?

SB 13-197 which has to do with domestic violence has cleared the House and needs to go back to the Senate I believe from what I can tell from the information that I can find. 

For information on it click on the link and then on the links at the top of the page

http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2013a/csl.nsf/fsbillcont3/24B586DC34FB057F87257B08007A98F7?Open&file=197_01.pdf

I am not sure on SB 13-195 which has to do with online training.  Trying to read the information you should be a lawyer that went to school for 6 years to learn how to read it. 

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laws

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that people convicted of domestic violence are already not allowed to legally purchase a firearm from a normal FFL dealer.  I'm pretty sure that is one of the checks done through the CBI when buying a gun.  What these jokers need to be doing before they draft up bills for domestic abusers or requiring universal checks is to first pass a law that mandates these background check syetms be audited and fixed to ensure for 100% accuracy. We already have laws on the books, all states do.  What good are they if they aren't  being used or enforced? They think the answer to every broken system is more new laws.

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What they are doing with the

What they are doing with the bill on domestic violence is that if you are arrested and own a firearm you will need to turn them over to the county sheriff or somebody else.  All this without being convicted of a crime.  Without reading the bill again I believe that is the sticking point that they changed. 

 

On edit:

I just saw that the on line training pass both the House and Senate and is headed to the Governor.  The domestic violence law still need to go back to the Senate for final approval.

http://www.9news.com/news/article/331967/188/2-final-gun-bills-passed-by-Colo-Democrats

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online training

Yeah that online training bill was actually drafted by my senator from my district, Louis Tochtrop.  Ironically her and her husbund are avid shooters and gun owners, yet democrats.  She really didn't have to introduce anything regarding this legislation.  Not sure why she did.  She has assured me that she believes in the 2nd Amendment and would not do anything to infringe on our rights, but at the same time in the same email she told me how she viewed gun owners by quoting Bill Clinton and his recent condisending remark about rural folks and guns.  Her email was not very reassuring.  Personally I think the online training bill is the far lesser of all those introduced, but I still fail to see why she felt she had to head this bill.  It seems just to add lemon juice and salt to the wounds Colorado gun owners have suffered recently.   My take on it is that her bill was just a final kick in the nuts to Colorado gun owners.  She won't be getting my vote next election even if nobody else runs against her.

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