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Big timber Blacktails

Welcome OR-E-GUN hunter.

He didn't say there weren't any in the timber, only that there wasn't enough feed to substain a healthy population. Seem's to me that big timber doesn't really hold a lot of game of any kind. What you usually find is animals enroute to somewhere else.

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Tree Killer wrote:
It's not that there aren't ANY deer in the big timber, it's that there usually isn't enough feed to sustain a healthy population.

Forest fires and logging will produce an explosion of fresh browse such as trailing blackberry, huckleberry, and elderberry, as well as grasses and small forbes which Blacktails find tasty.

Ideal habitat is a mixture of big timber, reprod, and fresh clearcuts. They'll bed in the big timber and use the clearcuts to feed. The reprod also produces feed as well as cover.

Large areas of big timber usually have only vine maple, rhododendron, and hemlock undergrowth which Blacktails very seldom feed on. In the fall there may be a crop of mushrooms which they're devour, but they only last a short period of time.

Clearcuts with open roads into them probably isn't the best place to find a mature buck. If and when they use the clearcut, it will be at night. I play with trailcams a lot, and you'd be amazed at the big bucks that only show up after dark, even during the rut!

I'm not talking out my sleeve here, been hunting Blacktails for 40 years. Still haven't figured them out!

Good luck!

Ol TK speaks the truth there. There isnt anything really to hold blacktails in the timber. Its just a place for them to bed up for the day and stay cool for the most part. Dont over look it though. If there is a good clear cut nearby id skirt the edge of that big timber during mid day. Always a good place to find a bedded buck.

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Just sent you a PM Tree Killer. Thought I recognized that screen name. Welcome to BGH.

Tree Killer is a regular on Muley Madness too. Another really good site. He's ta lot of photo's that are really really nice. I say another really good site as it and here and maybe one other are the only sites I'm aware of I'd let my grand kids look at.

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Sitka blacktails at the northern end of their range cannot survive without big timber. Timber stands with trees of different ages are what deer require in winter. Large tracts of trees of the same age produced by clearcutting and windthrow are bad for deer in this part of the world. In the coastal rainforest, clearcuts quickly turn into impenetrable brushfields that have very little valuable browse except on the margins. As trees grow in they shade out most of the browse and produce very little winter cover or forage on their own. Old growth timber stands have broken canopies that don't allow deep snow to accumulate and also allow light in where browse can grow near the ground and other winter forage (such as lichen) can grow in older trees.

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solohunter- i live in the chetco unit, would be happy to give you info and good areas.

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i have been hunting black tail for 23 years and i am allso a military man, i hunt tacticaly, if i was the hunted i would use cover and concealment to its advantage. that is exactly what black tail deer do,if the timber has good low cover ,folage and brush ect. there will be deer.
if you have timber with brush next to reprod you will find good deer trails.
you have to get off the roads to find the big ones, and the big one will for the most part be nocturnal , so be prepaired to deal with moving up wind and sent blocker couldnt hurt (walk n stalk) walk extreemly slow and smooth , couple steps , stop,look and listen.

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