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i see that they use the 7 mm reminton mag on just about every show.does any one have first hand experience on this type of long range shooting that they do.please understand i know that some people do not think much of this but i wanted if some of you do this.i also see that they shoot at the game with a range finder in use.i understand this is needed but i can`t figure out how they figure the wind speed.
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Luck! Wind and heat effect it all and you can't see them. The sniper guys I know are good but they say alot of it is LUCK. And they wouldn't think of shooting game at the distances talked of.

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Weather conditions can have an impact on where your bullet hits. Everything from wind speed and direction to temperature and humidity plays a role in ballistics and accuracy.

They use a wind meter

A handheld unit measures current, maximum and average wind speed, current temperature and wind chill.

A more elaborate Weather Meter measures wind speed, temperature, wind chill, heat index, humidity, dew point and air pressure.

I was talking with some of the guys from the Best of the West today at their booth at the Denver Sportmans Expo about this exact topic.

We got into quite the conversation from the speical scopes and Ballistic compensation dials to the way they build their rifles to the specialized ammo they custom reload.

They definatly take shooting long range to a whole new science. They shoot a lot farther than I would want to,but they also practice like crazy and study long range shooting year round.
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I've been using a 7mm magnum for MANY years and as stated above there are a bunch of variables you need to figure in for your long distance shooting.

Personally I've limited myself to the 300 yard range for my maximum distance shots. I practice this distance quite regularly and that is pretty much half the battle,...PRACTICE !

I do roll my own ammo, and use a ballistics software program for the preliminary figures of the bullets actions for different circumstances. I take the printout of the predetermined findings with me to the range for starting points and make any changes to them from the actual shooting. These are transfered to small cards that can be carried or taped to the stock of the rifle when going afield for a reference.

The main thing though is continual practice at the distance you plan on shooting and having complete confidence in your ability with your choice of weapon.

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I hunt with a 300 win mag for elk. Although it has tremendous range I am not comfortable taking a shot beyond 350 yds. and that has to be ideal conditions. fortunately where I hunt in western Washington most of my opportunities have come at less than 300 yds. If you don't bring an elk down cleanly they can cover a lot of distance on adreneline.

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The 7mm is my favorite cartridge. It's very accruate at long ranges compared to other rounds. That's probably why they chose this cartridge for thier long range shooting.

Shooting long range is something I believe can be done with as much consistancy as you can do at shorter ranges but it takes a lot to do it well and is not for the average Joe in my opinion.

It's all about your capabilities and the capabilities of the rifle and it never ceases to amaze me at how many people don't know either one.

My personal limit is 400 yds and even then I'd try and get closer if at all possible. Beyond that range I'm just not consistant enough to shoot at an animal.

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Hello I'm new to the forum. The rifle the guys use is a costom built 7mm that is alot like the 7mm STW and the 7mm RUM. I feel a person has to know their rifle and practice all the time. If you are serious about long distance shooting you must have a rifle and cartridge that can do the job and a clean crisp trigger. I personally shoot a Remington Sendero 7mm RUM, my trigger is set at 2 lbs and I shoot Hornady 139 gr SST Interbond bullets ( hand loads ). I constantly practice and one of the best ways I like to practice is to shoot milk jugs anywhere from 100 yards out to 1000 yards. You need a good range finder and you must know your rifle. I was born and raised in Western Colorado and out here long shots are common. The last four elk I have taken have been between 400 yards to 520 yards. And yes not everyone can do it. My father had hunters come out hunting with us when I was a kid. They all shot semiauto 30-06 and if they could hit a paper plate at 25 yards they were sighted in. I remember guys missing deer and elk at 100 yards. Sight your rifle in on a solid rest and pick a caliber you are not afraid to shoot it doesn't have to be a 30-378 to do the job. Pick a caliber you are comfortable with, a good load, and practice, practice, pactice.

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