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lot's of great discussion on good rifle cartridges, but in my opinion, as far as rifles go, the Winchester model 70 is the best 'out of the box' performer around and the price is very affordable. i picked up my latest model 70 Sporter LT .30-06 for $429.00 in april.

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I just bought a 30-30 winchester. Do think its a good Wild Pig gun?If not what would you suggest? I just start hunting about 4 months ago so I need to learn lots from the experienced Wink.

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Your 30-30 will do any pig you run accross, a fine rifle, now before the 300 win. mag crowd chimes in a good shot will do the job.

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Chechatonga,are you saying that if I hit the pig/hog that is with destroy it... or that is will just kill it very easily?

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I also have wanted to hunt turkey but im not sure it will do to the turkey if I hit it Wink... I really dont think my 30/30 will do much but...I new so I dont really know... If you have a guess or answer plz by all means reply.. THX..Happy new year

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LAL, I don't claim to be an expert on turkey hunting, but there is a substantial difference in anatomy between a pig and a turkey. Birds by nature have lightweight construction -- thin skin, light bones, etc. I suspect that a hit from a .30-30 would do a lot of damage. If you want to eat something besides turkey soup, you might want to see if you can get your hands on a shotgun.

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Thanks for the advise! What kind of shotgun would be better? A 12ga. 20ga. or a 4-10?
I like 4-10's myself but have never really known whats the different types used for?(I new at this stuff remember,=) no laughing) All I know about em is that they have different sizes in the shot.So help me out there. Thx

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I had one other question...Is there any cheaper ammo than the remingtons 30/30 ammo. At 15$ for 20bullets is a little bit to high in my oppion

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The 3 most common shotgun gauges are 12, 20 and 410. Others you may see are 10, 16, 28.

In my experience, 410's are used for rabbits and grouse, a 20ga for small game, upland birds (grouse, pheasants) and ducks and a 12 gauge for heavier or longer range (ducks, geese, pheasants). Generally even with a more powerful shotgun (ie 12ga) you can usually still use it for lighter stuff by using smaller shot. Although I'd hate to see what a 12ga would do to a rabbit at 20 ft regardless of shot size.

With shotguns the smaller the number the more "powerful" the weapon. Therefore a 12 gauge is more powerful than a 20 gauge, which more powerful than a 28 gauge. A 410 is the least powerful shotgun that I know of and is generally only good for small game (rabbits, squirrels, grouse) at close ranges (50yds or so). I don't know anything at all about turkey hunting (we don't have them here).

I do know that with a 410 your options will be quite limited in what you can use it for because of its low power. I would suggest a 20ga and then adjust the shot size to your immediate needs. I'm not even sure that a 20ga would be OK for turkeys, but I assume that it would. You'd have to ask a turkey hunter that one. I'll bet that a 410 won't unless you're close enough to hit them with a stick.

Good luck

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Thanks for the advise..You have changed my mind on the 410 (I knew it was the lowest in power). So you think that a 12ga. would probubly be the best for turkey, now so do I. Thanks for the info and ill put it to good use. Also, I never new about 10,16,and 28ga.'s. Thanks once again.. Wink

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