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Hey, if genetic manipulation could bring back Irish Elk from the Pleistocene, I'd be all over it. Seven feet high at the shoulder, 12-foot antler spread...honey, I'm gonna need a bigger truck.

http://www.wilddeerireland.com/Species_elk.html

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Yeah a Megaloceros hunt just sounds cool.

I about bust a gut when I looked at the picture on that page though. The artist's "interpretation" of megaloceros' rack look more like the palm up hands-o-death straight off the grim reaper! Sorry but the rack just didn't look right to me....

These fossils were interesting:
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/mammal/artio/irishelk.html

There is a decent rack picture here too, about 30% of the way down the page:

http://www.alamut.com/past/0004.html

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Granted, the rack looked a bit overdone, but it was one of the few pictures I've seen that put flesh on the skeleton. I've seen some in museums (Denver Museum of Natural History and Smithsonian stand out), and it seems like the racks varied somewhat like moose racks do around the world -- some were more palm than tine, others were vice versa.

One article estimated Irish Elk at 800-1000 pounds (smaller than Pennsylvania Elk). But then primitive man didn't have a truck to drag one to, so that number is probably pretty low.

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Yes, the racks I have seen are sort of a cross, not "tine only" like deer and elk, but have "palms" to them as well. An odd cross.

Next time I'm at the Denver Musuem I'll have to check that out...

Dragging effects are very important when estimating weight, since it is not linear with drag distance, but rather exponential...

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One should also consider the added pull associated with trying to drag a 12 foot wide rack through the brush a couple miles.

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