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Location: NJ
Joined: 01/18/2007
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Bear Attacks?

I've been a resident of NJ for over 40 years, but have hunted the Catskill Mountains in NY for the last 22 years on private land. In 22 years I've never seen a bear during bow or gun season in NY.

Just recently, I 've moved from Bergen County out to Sussex County which is in the North West corner of NJ (Bear County).

The amount of bear sightings since w have been here (13 months) is unreal. Our second day in the house, a mom and two cubs casualy walked into the yard with my two kids 20yrds away on the swings.

I've started bow hunting on land near my home, and this fall was out 4 times. Every time all I saw was bear. Sometimes two at once. In one situation an average size bear sized me up, and was totally unspooked by my presence.

I been told by the locals, "oh, they won't do anything to you" but I'm well aware that if a bear wants you, he's got you and not much you can do about it.

Any good information on safety while sharing the woods with these criters?

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Location: Pennsylvania
Joined: 10/28/2003
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Bear Attacks?

If they come after you....hit em with everything you got!

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Location: Southern NH
Joined: 09/13/2006
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Pepper spray.

Bear repellent or a gun, if it's legal. You're choice.

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Location: Pennsylvania
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Posts: 1647
Bear Attacks?

believe it or not but in New Jersey......even bear repelent is illegal sad

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Location: Maryland
Joined: 10/11/2006
Posts: 151
Bear Attacks?
hunter777 wrote:
believe it or not but in New Jersey......even bear repelent is illegal sad

That's dumb. What do we do to defend ourselves? Ohhhhh. I got it! Sit there and get mauled! neener!

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Location: NJ
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Bear Attacks?

I've tried to find info on the web to confirm pepper spray is illegal, but have yet to find it?

Also emailed NJDEP for answer, no responce yet.

You sure this is true?

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Location: Minnesota
Joined: 12/23/2005
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Bear Attacks?

This story is worth a read. Also the brand that is advertised is a brand that I have carried and tested. I recommend it, although I have not used it in self defense.

http://www.bear-hunting.com/news.cfm?Action=News&NewsFlashID=172

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Location: Pennsylvania
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Bear Attacks?
Scottmc wrote:
I've tried to find info on the web to confirm pepper spray is illegal, but have yet to find it?

Also emailed NJDEP for answer, no responce yet.

You sure this is true?

Sorry I didn't see this post earlier. I found it....took me awhile!

NEW JERSEY: Illegal New Jersey State Law. New Jersey Stat. Ann. Title 2C. New Jersey Code of Criminal Justice. Chapter 39-1. Prohibited weapons and devices. (Section "r" summarized from Chapter 2C:39-1) "Weapon" means anything readily capable of lethal use or of inflicting serious bodily injury. The term includes, but is not limited to all (4) stun guns; and any weapon or (this section refers to tear gas and has been updated in 1995) other device which projects, releases, or emits tear gas or any other substance intended to produce temporary physical discomfort or permanent injury through being vaporized or otherwise dispensed in the air. (t) "Stun gun" means any weapon or other device which emits an electrical charge or current intended to temporarily or permanently disable a person. Senate, No. 2871 -- L.1985, c. 360 Senate Bill No. 2781, as amended by the Senate Law, Public Safety and Defense Committee, prohibits as a crime of the fourth degree the possession of a stun gun by any person, including a law enforcement officer. A crime of the fourth degree carries a penalty of imprisonment for up to 18 months, a fine of up to $7,500, or both. Prior to being amended the bill classified possession of a crime in the third degree. {Editor?s Note: According to Len Lawson of NJ Legislative Council, (609) 292-4625) NJ does not classify crimes in felonies versus misdemeanors. The highest crimes are in first degree on down to fourth degree. A fourth degree penalty is a serious charge and is generally considered a misdemeanor in common terms. It is however an indictable offense. A fourth degree crime does contain "a presumption of non-custodial sentencing," meaning that there is not imprisonment if there are no prior convictions. In some cases the sentencing is obviated from one?s record if there is a period of good behavior following the charge.} The committee amended the bill to include a provision authorizing the Attorney General, at his discretion, to exempt law enforcement officers from the prohibition against possession stun guns. The bill also was amended by the committee to include stun guns in the definition of "weapon" in paragraph r. N.J.S. 2C:39-1. (Chapter 2C:39-1) (h) Stun guns. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any stun gun is guilty of a crime in the fourth degree. SUMMARY: Possession is banned of Stunning Devices in New Jersey.

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Joined: 08/27/2004
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Bear Attacks?

Ever since the spring bear hunt in ontario was closed we have had alot more bears around in fact last year some lady was mauled to death just outside the city closest to me her husband tryed to save here and also got the short end of the stick so If you ever suspect strange behaviour grab your rifle cause they wont be there fast enough to help around here I dont think it is illegal to shoot a bear if in fear for your life or your family and animals.

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Joined: 07/12/2007
Posts: 14
true believer

I'am a true believer that bear will attack if provoked.... Such as yesterday me and my friend (Atomikall) were scouting the bush and we spooked a big bruin and his instict was to barrel toward us... I tried to climb a tree which didnt work but when you run or climb a tree your acting like prey and when you scream it either spooks them or provokes him/her to attack... My oppinion is the best things to do just call the MNR to trap the bear or bears for the protection of the kids... hope you find an equalizer....

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