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Looking for some advice from any good Bass anglers here. Having spent most of my life fishing almost exclusively for trout by both fly rod and spinning rod I've decided for the first time to specifically target Bass. I figured that I could use the same rod for Bass as I've used for both the occasional salmon, steelhead trout, and large lake trout, an Abu Garcia 6'6" Medium-Heavy,10lb-25lb test-line baitcasting rod.

The first question: I've broken the baitcast reel beyond repair that once sat atop my baitcast rod and was looking to get a new one. Don't want to spend too much money. I saw a Pinnacle Platnum Plus as Walwart for $49. It holds 120 yrds of 12 lb test line. Anyone have any experience with this reel? The only baitcast reel I've owned before was a Cabelas brand (don't recall the model). Are Pinnacles any good?

The second question: What bait for Bass? Live bait, spoons, spinners? I've read and heard lots of stuff for Bass, but just wondering if any one has any good advice here on bait for Bass.

Thanks.

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I'm a fan of plastics...stick baits (senkos) or creature-type baits like the paca craw. I throw a lot of topwaters - hula poppers, spooks, etc. I started drop-shotting Gulp ALIVE leeches a couple years ago and its beautiful for deeper water (+15').

That being said NOTHING outfishes live bait - crawlers, leeches minnows. They just tend to take live bait quite deeply, which is fine if you're keeping them, not so much if you're planning on letting them go.

Thats just me. I know spinnerbaits and crank baits, especially the X-rap are popular and I've seen them catch a lot of fish, I just haven't had much success with them.

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Thanks saskie!! I'll try that.

Any opinion on Pinnacle brand baitcast reels? Looking at the Platinum Plus model.

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My opinion is that since they're a baitcaster I'm not coordinated enough to use them Oops! I only use spinning reels.

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I hear ya. Sometimes baitcasters can be a bugger to use, especially when out of practice, but I like em a lot. Found a Pinnacle Interia Finess model for $60 at walmart. That's normally an $85 reel. Figured I'll use it only for catfish, walley, and bass fishing here at home.

I saw they had a few Abu Garcia C3 round reels starting at $69 up to $80. Maybe I will get one of those Abu C3 reels and get a new 8' medium/heavy power rod to use for Steelhead and Silver Salmon on the Rogue River and Klamath River next year. The problem is that everytime we make it out to Oregon to visit the in-laws, we never seem to have time to fish.

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The pinnacles arent bad.

I've used em......no problems out of the reel.......I'm in complete agreement about plastics....I zoom worms!!!!.....I also like a couple color choices depended on water clarity.I fish in ALA on Lake Weiss and for me its worms and craws and weedless hooks.I sometimes use almost any other bait from cranks to topwaters and everything in between.But for flipping docks and fishing the weeds i always seem to have luck with the plastics.

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I absolutely love Abu stuff, but something is wrong with the bail & spring systems on the C3s! I have bought [5] of them and three have had the same issue! I am now down to [2] reels. They work great and are supersmooth, but can't seem to figure out what the problem is. The spring is pretty week and small, maybe a heavier one would help. I have the three boxed up and ready to return to Pure Fishing for repair or return, I will let you know.

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That's the problem I had when deciding if I should buy an Abu C3. Everyone says they are the gold standard for baitcaster reel, yet along with those rave reviews there is plenty of room for the same users to say stuff about them like you just said. Down to 2 out of 5? That tells me something about Abu's C3 reels. They've become much like Rolex and Mercedes Benz, nothing more than a brand name whose company is still riding on the shoulders of it's old reputation, while providing the customer these days with an average or below average product.

Hate to be so hard on Abu Garcia stuff, but for all the hype, there seems to be a lot of disappointed customers out there. I'm one of them. That graphite Abu rod I've been using for the last three years sucks big time. I only bought it because it was around $30 at the time and only kept it around because baitcasting accounted for only about 15% of the type of fishing I did until recently. It's casting was horrible, sensitivity was terrible for a fast action tip, and the cork handle was so soft and pliable there are finger impressions in it from the couple dozen or so times I've fished with it. None of my other spinning rods or fly rods have that on the cork and I've fished them dozens of times a year for several years. I'm actually going to give that Abu rod away to a beginner that I know for him to practice with. For bass and catfish I'll either get a 7' Ugly Stick or a 7' Bass Pro Shops graphite rod to use. For Steelhead and Salmon I'll eventually get either a 8' Fenwick graphite or an Eagle Claw Granger X. Thanks for the help, guys. So far the Pinnacle reel has worked pretty good.

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...not sure I can ever get away from tossing plastics; but hits on topwater are the absolute best! I love Sammys, ZaraPuppies & Spooks or frogs for this. Poppers & grasshoppers do wonders as well! If you have huge bucketmouths around, big buzzbaits & snakes might do you justice as well!

Love to fish cranks too. Lipless as well as those with a small or larger lip seem to work well at different times and are always fun to catch fish on & the same for jerkbaits and stickbaits.

Spinners & Tennis shoe sized hardswimbaits are fun when you have big largemouths around!

Plastics is as varied as I imagine fishing can get! WOW!

My top plastics for bass over the last few years in no particular order:

* Regular jighead w/ Mister Twister in chartruese of some type! Works great for the walleyes too! Thumbs up
*HEAVY (1/2oz & up) Chompers skirted football jig. Most of the time I add a large craw tail or a chompers double tail in salt & garlic all colors. Like all plastics, prolly varies depending on the water you're fishing.
* Tube Jigs (Slammin for me this year in the higher than normal water around here) Chompers again in salt & Garlic. Been killing on watermelon or pumkin colors as well as white.
* Drop shot rigs - Worms, leaches, whatever in deep water, works great for around deep water docks & piers.
*Swimbaits ALL types - Mostly like natural colors in my swimbaits.

Good luck, I am a recently addicted bass fisher after spending my whole life in the cold water. Nothing will ever replace my love for trout, but warm water is much easier for me to get to.

Actually doing a three day backpacking trip to a sweet mountain lake this weekend! Expect to be the only on there; even on the weekend! Mr. Cool!

Good luck, I am having fun with it!

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Thanks for the info HeavyC. Yup I'm just like you, nothing will ever replace my love for trout fishing either, but warm water fishing is also much easier for me to get to as well. My luck with trout up in the mountains has been pretty bad this year anyway.

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p.s... and since you are in CO...here is the best place to go!

http://www.fishexplorer.com/default.asp

Great info on there, Matt Snider does a great job on this site! Adding rivers really soon and also Wyoming lakes!

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