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Ballistic Tip Performance

Anybody have any experience with ballistic tips against larger game (deer and above)? They generally advertise better ballistics, but how do they fare in terms of expansion, penetration, and weight rentention versus a typical pointed soft point?

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I like ballistic tips, but they are a little more expensive if you buy nosler bullets,
I use ballistic silver tips in my 2506 and like them, I get good groups at the range and they hit a deer pretty damn hard.

I never did get a full passthrough with them but when I gutted the deer there were nothing left of their lungs, needs to say, they didn't run very far!!

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Thanks. Appearances suggest the things are designed to open up with lower energy in order to help expansion at long range, which would suggest overexpansion or fragmentation at close range. You said you didn't get full passthrough. How long were the shots and what condition were the bullets in when you dug them out of the animal?

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My experience with BT is that they are super accurate but are best left shooting paper. I have never used them on game and don't intend to. I have heard many horror stories about them fragmenting and not passing through often leading to extended tracks. I think there are better bullets out there to use so I do. I like the Swift Scirroco, the barnes X(un-coated), and the Nosler partitions. $0.02

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I have had similar problems with boattail loads. On paper they shoot awesome but on impact with medium size game you get total fragmentation. In turn resulted in alot of wasted meat and at times a long track. I have found that my best loads have been the barnes-x or trophy bonded bear claw bullets.

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On 2003-01-12 15:19, claycrusher wrote:
I have had similar problems with boattail loads. On paper they shoot awesome but on impact with medium size game you get total fragmentation. In turn resulted in alot of wasted meat and at times a long track. I have found that my best loads have been the barnes-x or trophy bonded bear claw bullets.
What he said.

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In my opinion, you don't need a full passthrough to kill a deer. The closest shot was about 150yds. and the longest about 350yds. but I did hit them in the lungs though and that will usually either drop them or they won't run far. I agree with you guys though, for anything bigger than deer you should get something with controlled exspansion to get more penetration!

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Just a comment on the Ballistic Tips, I use them exclusively in my 22-250 Sako Varminter and they are awesome and kill rabbits ,pigs and goats with well placed shots like lightning. They do fragment and should not be used if you can't pick your shots. In my 25/06 and 257 roberts the 115 BT are great on game up to the size of red deer.
In the 30/06 ( my favourite deer/pig rifle)they are a bit dodgy. They just don't hold together well enough for the heavier game to get penetration.I prefer to use the Speer 165 grn.They are a good all round bullet for out here. They flatten wild donkeys, brumbies(wild horses) and scrub bulls.

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I had a lot of experience with the NBT in my .270 on medium size game. Closer than 125 yards they tend to fragmentate. They perform well over 150 yards, often exit. But try the new AccuBonds of Nosler. This bullet combines the accuracy of the Ballistic Tip and the controlled expansion of the NP. I got superb accuracy in my .270 Win, even better than the Ballistic Tip. Loaded with Hodgdon 4831/58; muzzle vel. 3050 fps, SD 11. Grouping average 0,58 MOA. Weight retention about 60%, in most cases exit on elk. My 'huntingrange'is mostly over 150 yards.

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I've shot several deer with a 165 grain NBT. I have yet to have a pass-thru, and while the bullet does tremendous damage, it doesn't hold together well at all. My loads were moderate in velocity, and the deer were out beyond 50 yards but less than 100. In each case, the bullet was in tiny pieces in the body cavity. One would think a 165 grain, .30 caliber bullet would not explode like that, but all of mine have. One even hit further back, and missed all the ribs. It did the same thing. That being said, it sure does pack a whallop. I just don't like the fact that I may not be able to trust it going through a shoulder blade.

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Hey Aussie, you said:

"In the 30/06... I prefer to use the Speer 165 grn... They flatten wild donkeys, brumbies(wild horses) and scrub bulls."

I have to ask... what do you do with a wild donkey???

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