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The balancing act

Like everyone, I'm already trying to plan ahead to next season here in Colorado, but we've got some tough choices to make here. Everyone has differing numbers of points for elk and deer and we'd like to try to get everyone in on at least one hunt, but for some reason it seems tougher than normal this year. In the group of 6, we have Yours Truly with 1 elk point and 2 deer points, Buddy 1 with 2 elk and 2 deer points, Buddy 2 with 2 elk and 0 deer points, Buddy 3 with 1 elk and 0 deer points, Buddy 4 with 1 elk and 1 deer point, Buddy 5 with 2 elk and 5 deer points. I know that's confusing, now we're gonna make things worse. Some of us want to do a muzzleloader cow or bull hunt, and others are putting in for an RFW cow hunt (List A), still another will probably also have an archery hunt. Now, if we have our early seasons separate, that leaves either a 1st season elk hunt and or a 3rd season deer hunt together. But in order for everyone to be able to come on either of those hunts, we'd have to have both of those hunts be in a List B area in 1st season and/or 3rd season, which would also help if it was OTC. Still with me? Now let's make it worse, nobody wants to feel like they've wasted points by applying for a unit that requires much less than 1 or two points than they already have, which really only hurts one of the the guys as he is the only one with more than 2 deer points. However, we have the option of getting Buddy 5 in on a muzzleloader hunt, but with him doing a High Country deer hunt instead of an elk hunt, he doesn't waste his points, but it puts the muzzleloader hunt in a less desireable place. The original thinking was to keep everyone out of less hot water with the wives this year by reducing the Colorado hunts to just 2 instead of 3 plus an antelope hunt in Wyoming. But with the point problems and differing goals, it looks like there has to be three hunts for either elk or deer, plus some an antleope hunt or two, putting us back up to 4 or 5 hunts total.

Don't know what the heck to do at this point, especially because we don't know how the muzzleloader draw will play out.

Anybody else in a similar boat? Do you try to make everyone happy for each hunt, or just say, "every man for himself" for two hunts, then compromise on 1 hunt?
Plans are coming together, but dang, it's difficult, if we could get everyone to blow all their points this year, we could start over and this would be a lot easier next year.

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Re: The balancing act

I have been doing that type of balancing for the last 20 years. Not necessarily here in Colorado but in other states since all my hunting buddies have moved out on me. Usually what I will do is put in for what I want to hunt or for the points for that animal and let the others do what ever they want to do. I will however try and work a hunt in for myself during their hunt here in Colorado and a couple of other states. There have been times that I have just gone along with no tag in hand except for a small game and fishing license and there have been times that the others have done the same with me. It is surprising at how much fun it can be to be in the hunting camp with really no pressure other than to spot game for others.

Now that I am retired I can put a little bit more time in than the others can for scouting and checking out the hills that we are headed into for the hunts to come. It seams that every time that I try a new hunting spot it very seldom lets me down. Just last year I tried a new deer hunt area in Utah and not only found some nice bucks and new terrain to hunt but also quite a few wild horses. I spent a whole day just watching them and not even worrying about shooting a deer. I will be going back there this year with some large expectations weather I can find just what I am looking for or not is yet to be seen but I believe that they are there.

I have also found out that it isn't about taking a deer, elk or what ever else you are hunting but about getting away from it all and just enjoying the outdoors. A few years ago while I was still working I went hunting and after 4 or 5 days I totally forgot what day of the week it was. I didn't know and I didn't care. That is what it is all about.

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Re: The balancing act

I understand what your saying. When your a non resident trying to work with others and trying to figure out how the point system works at all, it can be harder than the hunt itself. Big smile Not really but it's almost easier if one guy does all the pre planning.
We are looking at 2011 return to Colorado and will get some more points this year and not sure how points will play out for muzzleloader either.

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Re: The balancing act

I tried planning for a few of us last year and everyone had different ideas of where to go and how to hunt. It was too hard trying to plan for a group so I'm going on my own for deer and pronghorn this year and chasing elk with a couple buddies who have hunted a particular unit for the last 15 years. They're doing all the planning for that.

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Re: The balancing act

I think we've got it figured out now. Early seasons will see one guy at an RFW cow hunt, then about half of us will team up for a muzzleloader hunt in a list B unit, some with cow tags, some with bull tags. All of us will be able to go on the deer hunt, but at least or three won't actually draw the tag. Since it will be in an OTC area, everyone will be able to have either the deer tag or OTC tag, but the unit is List A, so no one will bother with a cow tag. And then about 4 of us will be able to do a 1st season cow hunt/either sex hunt in a List B area.

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Re: The balancing act

I may be geographically confused, but I thought ALL deer tags in Colorado were drawing only (???) and that there were no OTC deer licenses...

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Re: The balancing act

Yeah, sorry, it's a limited draw deer tag, that two guys probably won't draw, but it's in an OTC elk unit that is list A.

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