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i bought one of the freeze dried meals and thought it was pretty good so i think i will use that when i go on my trip. i have been told not to bring extra clothes by somepeople but i think that you should. Does anyone leave their extra clothes at home?

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wapiti whacker wrote:
i bought one of the freeze dried meals and thought it was pretty good so i think i will use that when i go on my trip. i have been told not to bring extra clothes by somepeople but i think that you should. Does anyone leave their extra clothes at home?

Well I suppose you can do what you want but there are no dryers on the mountain and you can't stop me from taking a few extra clothes. It seems you are either sweating like crazy, stuck in the rain, slip in a stream, or rip something. I always make room for a few extra clothes particularly socks and skivies. Just keep in within reason, can't take a new outfit for everyday. Thumbs up

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I agree about making room for appropriate extra clothes. Especially socks. Whatever that Lt. Dan quote is from Forest Gump it suits this topic. "Rule number one; protect your feet".

You will not be enjoying the experience as much as you should be if your soaking wet without the opportunity to change into some dry duds and let the wet ones dry.

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Sounds kinda like what I'm up against. Don't know ifthis will help you or not,I have not done a backpack hunt in 20 yrs. Haven't figured out the tent yet,any Ideas , it will probably be 2 of us. I'm probably askin more questions than answering.Went with the steri-pen for water purification, are the tabs better? Got an x-ped downmat pump, the down is inside and shouldn't get wet, got some Mountain house dehydrated meals. Dragonfly pack.Havalon knife ,w/replaceable blades, I have 2 older sleeping bags,a 25 yr old llbean polyester fill and a 12 yr old -20 some kind of hollow spiral fill weighs about 4lbs, don't know which if either I will take ,are the new bags any better?Lighter? I have miendl boots which I like, I,m going with extra socks and long undies.Lots of aa bateries for flash lights andgps, are the lithiums much better? Never been in the unit not sure what to expect.( was hoping exbio would have gotten drawn, might have gotten a few pointers out of him) Have maps and heavy duty meat bags(they aren't light) never know ,might just need 'em.Waterproof matches and firestarter, I've heard pitch is all you need.
Hoping I,m not getting in over my head. Been working out 2-3x a week, mowing the lawn with a push mower and a 40 lb pack ,for 3hrs once a week.Hope it helps. The 1200 ft el. where I live doesn't help much at 8k. If i come across any must haves I'll let you know . Good Luck and be safe. :

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Got a couple of Q's for regard.How far and long, from base camp, you guys planning for?Any significant altitude changes from home?How you guys plan on hauling back your 'prize' ? These A's could affect your planning .

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This is wapiti whacker thread, I'm just joinin in for the info. The 1200 ft el. where I live doesn't help much at 8k. I'm thinkin 3-4 mi from base camp. If we go farther there is the option of horses,but that might also add problems. Will definitely have to make a few trips if we score. I'm just trying to prep the best I can ,basically play it by ear when we get there. Plan on somebody dropping us off by 4 wheeler as far as we can legally go. Unit 53 3rd season. The other guys will be in a cabin on the unit

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I live apx 40 miles south of Paonia Game Management Unit 53. It lies south of Highway 133 from Paonia and is bordered by Highway 92 extending from Hotchkiss to Crawford. The GMU extends to the West Elks Wilderness to the east. Some of the biggest bucks I’ve ever seen were in Unit 53, and the elk hunting is also good.Good fishing..some campsites, at Crawford Reservoir.
Our weather has been dry... water is scarce and you will not FIND water for yourselves . All game is down low right now fattening up near local farms.Bears are also going to be very very hungry and thirsty! Bing mace. I would not leave your downed game without an armed guard ! *hint...find water find game.
Now, it is going to be a crap shoot as to what our weather is going to do this fall.We have broken records all year for extremes!!!Prepare for hot/dry AND cold/wet. The rule is LAYER and bring lots of water.(I'll post local weather and sightings as I get them. Need 'Hot Coffee and Pie' ?Still booking.

Please read this article:

http://colorado-outfitters.org/preparing_for_a_high_altitude_hu.html Thumbs up

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when backpacking or bikepacking, 2 pairs of socks, no more. One drying on the outside of your pack the other on your feet. One change of clothes that are on your body. If you wear the right clothes you can don't need to change in to extras. Remeber backpacking is not a comfort sport. Everything will be on your back. Also with the right sleeping bag, you can go to bed wet and wake up dry, than elevate your bag to dry out during the day.

food, mountain house does work extremley well. Something else that i have found that works good in the food is fuel mentality is peanut butter and bacon sandwiches. Close to over a 1000 calories per sandwich. One little bit of advice on the pb and bacon. Cook your bacon real crisp. the sandwiches will last 5 days.

once you have had giardia you will pack a pump for water. Been there done that, hated every day of it.

I have also learned a pretty good breakfast. Put your can of fruit on the burner, heat it up and dump your oatmeal into the warmed canned fruit. Taste good and gives you lots of extra calories. We did this on my last sheep hunt and it worked good. You can use the plastic canned fruit and just open the plastic up and dump into your bowl and put that on the stove.

IF using mre's you can always field strip them of stuff you don't need.

tim

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walkin wrote:
Sounds kinda like what I'm up against. Don't know ifthis will help you or not,I have not done a backpack hunt in 20 yrs. Haven't figured out the tent yet,any Ideas , it will probably be 2 of us. I'm probably askin more questions than answering.Went with the steri-pen for water purification, are the tabs better? Got an x-ped downmat pump, the down is inside and shouldn't get wet, got some Mountain house dehydrated meals. Dragonfly pack.Havalon knife ,w/replaceable blades, I have 2 older sleeping bags,a 25 yr old llbean polyester fill and a 12 yr old -20 some kind of hollow spiral fill weighs about 4lbs, don't know which if either I will take ,are the new bags any better?Lighter? I have miendl boots which I like, I,m going with extra socks and long undies.Lots of aa bateries for flash lights andgps, are the lithiums much better? Never been in the unit not sure what to expect.( was hoping exbio would have gotten drawn, might have gotten a few pointers out of him) Have maps and heavy duty meat bags(they aren't light) never know ,might just need 'em.Waterproof matches and firestarter, I've heard pitch is all you need.
Hoping I,m not getting in over my head. Been working out 2-3x a week, mowing the lawn with a push mower and a 40 lb pack ,for 3hrs once a week.Hope it helps. The 1200 ft el. where I live doesn't help much at 8k. If i come across any must haves I'll let you know . Good Luck and be safe. :

Take some dryer lint, roll it up into a tight little roll and wrap some twine around it........this is a SUPERB fire starter!

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hotcoffee wrote:
I live apx 40 miles south of Paonia Game Management Unit 53. It lies south of Highway 133 from Paonia and is bordered by Highway 92 extending from Hotchkiss to Crawford. The GMU extends to the West Elks Wilderness to the east. Some of the biggest bucks I’ve ever seen were in Unit 53, and the elk hunting is also good.Good fishing..some campsites, at Crawford Reservoir.
Our weather has been dry... water is scarce and you will not FIND water for yourselves . All game is down low right now fattening up near local farms.Bears are also going to be very very hungry and thirsty! Bing mace. I would not leave your downed game without an armed guard ! *hint...find water find game.
Now, it is going to be a crap shoot as to what our weather is going to do this fall.We have broken records all year for extremes!!!Prepare for hot/dry AND cold/wet. The rule is LAYER and bring lots of water.(I'll post local weather and sightings as I get them. Need 'Hot Coffee and Pie' ?Still booking.

Please read this article:

http://colorado-outfitters.org/preparing_for_a_high_altitude_hu.html Thumbs up

DRY?

What?

central colorado has been VERY wet this year! UNSEASONABLY WET! cooler temps as well..........the Antelope in the Southpark area are already beginning their rut due to the wet and cooler conditions almost a month ahead of time. We've even heard elk bugling in the Lost Creek Wilderness over the past few days. Prepare for a COLD fall and winter around there.

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