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Aussie looking for information

G'day guys,

I have always wanted to do a self guided hunt in the Idaho/Wyoming area for deer, elk or antelope. I was wondering if anyone on here can help with information and licenses. Coming from Queensland Australia we don't have public land to hunt, only private if you are lucky to get permission from a landowner. Everything we have here are classified as feral pests so we hunt all year around with no bag limit. When it comes to tags and hunting regulations in USA I feel a bit lost. Again if anyone can help me out with information and tips I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks

Kind Regards,

Jonno

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Lots to cover here

For starters, I think every western state, which are the ones with the most public land, will require a hunter education course unless you were born in the 1940s , though the rules for that vary stat by state. 

Next, I'm not sure how feasible it would be to import a firearm here, but I do know that gun dealers have an exception to their normal residency rules that would allow you to purchase a rifle.  Of course, you'd probably have to sell it before returning to Australia.

Regarding public lands, there are the three main types: national forests, which tend to be the largest, most contiguous public lands. In some cases, they can be millions of acres. These lands are typically higher elevation lands. Next would be the bureau of land management lands. The BLM actually owns more public land  than the forest service does, but much of those lands are scattered with one square mile here, followed by one square mile of private land in what we call a checkerboard pattern. These lands are typically arid lands that the govt claimed because no one wanted them for farming. The las major category in the west would be your state lands. Throughout the west, two sections, which is one square mile or 640 acres out of every 36 sections were set aside for the states to lease for school funds. In some states hunters can freely access these lands, in others, the state game department must lease access from the state land board for access to individualproperties, leaving others inaccessible.

States will also own and manage state wildlife areas, which are typically old ranches or private timber company lands that the state leases  or purchases for hunter use.

Lastly, states will sometimes have temporary access agreements with private land owners for hunting. These are often referred to as Walk In Areas.

 

To be continued

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Licensing

So now the really confusing part, and one that many Americans struggle with too. Licensing varies wildly from state to state so let's just stick to Wyoming and Idaho. In both of those states, antelope would be a limited draw only, which is kind of like a lottery to ensure hunters do not take more than would be sustainable. Wyoming is the only state that has more antelope than people, and so they typically have leftover antelope licenses to choose from. Yesterday was leftover day and most of the licenses for areas with decent public access are gone. Idaho also issues antelope licenses by drawing. I don't know what their leftover license situation looks like, but can help with that later. Also in Idaho. You have to buy a basic huntin license before you can buy any big game tags. Cost is around $150. Wyoming issues elk licenses by draw only, though there are usuallyeftiver cow licenses to choose from. It typically takes two years to draw the general elk license. Idaho has many first come- first served limited elk license areas in addition to their draw only areas and general license areas. To be continued.....

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Deer might be an easier option for you.
In Wyoming, there are general region deer tags that you can apply for, but also plenty of leftover options. We can get into specifics if you want, but start by reading The Western Hunter Blog.

In Idaho, there are draw only areas, but also lots of country that can be hunted with a general tag. For nonresidents, the tags are limited but they never sell out.

Don't be afraid to ask additional questions

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G'day

One thing you may want to do, given the Hunter Education Requirement, is look in to exception or if your gun courses there will qualify for your Hunter Education Requirement.

The reason I say this is, it would be kind of impractical for you to have to travel over here to take such a course, one or two days, before you can apply for a hunt. You wouldn't be the first hunter to travel overseas to hunt antelope, deer, or elk in the western United States mate.

I can also tell you that if you were born before 1966 Arizona waives the Hunter Education requirement. Colorado is probably the worst, in my limited research, as far as how old someone has to be to be excused from Hunter Education, but that's another topic.

Given the headaches, hassles, and malarkey that comes with such an adventure you may seriously want to look at a guided hunt. Some of them, like Wyoming Antelope, are on private ranches and include accomodations. If it were me I would look in to that option as they may be able to help you with importing a rifle in too. Also look in to a guided elk hunt for a later date.

The reason I'm suggesting a guide is because of your travel distance, logistics, and regulations involved in such an endeavor. Give me a PM and I can help you a little more. I'm not a guide, don't live in WY, and will be going on my first WY Antelope hunt this year. I'll just share what I've learned regarding aussie rules and regs and yank rules and regs mate.

BTW: 'roo in a plum sauce is quite good.

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