Don't get too caught up on success rates being the deciding factor for a unit, especially ones with small amounts of public land. The hunter density in 211 would be over 5 per square mile if they were all hunting public land. And if all the bulls harvested in 211 came from public, then 350% of the available bulls would be harvested yearly. My point is, you're looking at skewed numbers from private land hunting.
Ok, thanks alot! I am not a crowd hunter! I prefer to take one or both of my brothers far in away from everyone and do some talking for them. Most of my excitement during a hunt is primarily that.... just talking to the elk and getting a response. Bringing one in is a huge bonus for me not the reason I am out there. OK so you have been very helpful so far so what do you think between 231 Routte National or 70 and the San Juan National. Like you say i am not looking for 300 class just a good chance that our hard work will pay off.
All I can say is the odds of success are a little higher in 70, the elk density is higher in 231, the hunter density is a little lower in 70, and the elk/hunter is a hair better in 70. To my mind, I think you would enjoy 70 better, but there are still quite a few hunters there too. But you're still better off in 70. There aren't many places where you can have a lot of elk, all to yourself on an OTC tag.
First of all, if you haven't gone winter backpacking, it needs to happen in the near future. It puts a very unique twist on the summer version of the activity. Yes, it's cold but it's nothing that being prepared can't remedy. Beyond it's therapeutic and recreational value, I think it is a very good tool for the big game hunter as well. I don't think that you can spend too much time getting to know the ins and outs of the area that you hunt. And there is no better way to gain experience in...