Don't get too caught up on success rates being the deciding factor for a unit, especially ones with small amounts of public land. The hunter density in 211 would be over 5 per square mile if they were all hunting public land. And if all the bulls harvested in 211 came from public, then 350% of the available bulls would be harvested yearly. My point is, you're looking at skewed numbers from private land hunting.
Ok, thanks alot! I am not a crowd hunter! I prefer to take one or both of my brothers far in away from everyone and do some talking for them. Most of my excitement during a hunt is primarily that.... just talking to the elk and getting a response. Bringing one in is a huge bonus for me not the reason I am out there. OK so you have been very helpful so far so what do you think between 231 Routte National or 70 and the San Juan National. Like you say i am not looking for 300 class just a good chance that our hard work will pay off.
All I can say is the odds of success are a little higher in 70, the elk density is higher in 231, the hunter density is a little lower in 70, and the elk/hunter is a hair better in 70. To my mind, I think you would enjoy 70 better, but there are still quite a few hunters there too. But you're still better off in 70. There aren't many places where you can have a lot of elk, all to yourself on an OTC tag.
Wind is one of the most crucial variables in any kind of big game hunting. It helps level the playing field between a hunter with a scoped rifle and the game animals being hunted. This is not novel information. Any hunter who has consistent success in the field knows this. I have tried a couple different techniques for keeping track of the wind. Here are a couple.
The most simple and obvious is to just stay cognizant of it. It is amazing how slight of a breeze you can sense if you just pay...