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Location: Benson, North Carolina
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Any tips on how to anchor in deer?

Hello all, i'm a north carolinian living in Johnston County. I'm in a hunting club in North hampton county where the deer are plentiful. Only time I ever get to go hunting is on the weekend, so i'm trying to establish a place around here to hunt on week days. My family owns approximately 150 acres of swamp, woods, and fields. I planted a food plot this year, seed from walmart and it died off relatively quick. The deer around here show up around every 3 days, it's as if they travel in a circle. How do I anchor these deer into my property? There are plentiful tree scrapes, ground scrapes, and tracks..But fresh tracks only happen about once ever 2-3 days. What do i Do? Do I plant food plots? I wish to increase deer herd size, but it's hard to do because the neighboring land owners shoot anything, and everything. If i plant food plots, what kind of seed? Any information or tips will be extremly helpful. I've been trying to manage this herd for around 2 years. It's almost impossible to pin down when the deer will be there..All suggestions welcome.

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Any tips on how to anchor in deer?

Didn't you read my post about high fence?

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NChunter,

WELCOME to BGH...

Now for your question....One mistake was using that crappola seed from wallyworld...You can buy very good stuff from your local CoOp and also ask them what they would recommend for your area...You will want to plant perennials and Annual type plants for sustained results...Also make sure you test your dirt for the PH...Lime it and fertilize usually twice a year and NO its not as expencive as it sounds...A good clover mix seed will be goor for the annuals. Ask them which type, as there are many, that will grow best in your area....as Far as the perennials I have found that a mix of buckwheat, rape seed, and chicory do well....Now you may think that 150 acres is alot of land for holding deer but in reality its not that much. Dont expect to see a herd of 50 deer on it. But that mix SHOULD help to hold them in a little better and also help them out through the winter. Yes that Biologic stuff and other like it is great but you can get the EXACT same seeds at your local CoOp for dang near half the price and they will also know what grows best in your area...Hope this helps and good luck!

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Any tips on how to anchor in deer?

hunter,

If you pay attention to where you see most of the game near civilization, it's alway's near some food supply. Food supply, cover and water, that's what they require.

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Any tips on how to anchor in deer?

Welcome NChunter, that's God's country up there where you live. I grew up up there and killed my first deer in NC. Great bucks up there.

If they died off relatively quick, it could be a problem with the ph level of your soil and you should get it tested and spread some lime to equalize it. We have a one acre food plot that required up to 3000# of lime to get it right. We have about 110 acres and often run into the same problem, you just have to be patient and as long as you have a good food source you'll eventually lure them in. I also echo what Don said about cover. Corn is usually a good annual as well as soy beans and they also provide good cover for the deer, which will help them feel more comfortable. I would suggest splitting up your food plot into sections with annuals and perrenials. I've even seen peanuts work well in NC. Clover and oats are good as well as different kinds of peas. I've also had better success staggering the planting days out so that everything doesn't mature all at the same time, otherwise your crop will be eaten in a matter of days and your deer will move on. Good luck and be sure to keep us posted...

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Hmmmmm.....the best way to 'anchor' those deer is to put a 200 grainer through their shoulders!! Thumbs up Talk to the Hand

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I like using a heavy chain around their neck and anchored to a tree to keep them from moving around. neener! Laugh Laugh Laugh

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Any tips on how to anchor in deer?

Great Question,
First of all it sounds like you have a great setup. I would, like the post above says, get rid of the wallyworld seed and get you some quality stuff from a local feed store or CoOp. Next feed the deer regularly when the season is out with corn, protein mix, sweet feed, or whatever you can get your hands on. That will keep them coming back to your place and staying.
It sounds to me like they would be hiding out in that swamp you mentioned but who knows with those crazy animals.
Anyway good luck with your hunting endeavors.

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Location: Benson, North Carolina
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Any tips on how to anchor in deer?

Sorry everyone for not posting a reply in awhile, i've been having problems with the forums. Everytime i posted a reply it just logged me out, but it seems it's fixed now. I've typed this reply probally 5 times now so going to try not to be short and sweet. My father just leased around 60 acres of cutover right next to our 60 acres of woods along with the 175 acre swamp. Also we own the land directly next to this land it's around 50 acres. Were basically now controlling a huge set of woods, and someone mentioned not having a huge deer herd on it, and i was just curious what the deer herd size should be? Were getting all of this land logged out, besides the land we leased. So around 120 acres will be logged out and resown with pines. Were going to cut around 5 nice paths through the woods, and build some nice stands and ect, also thinking about making some nice food plots directly in the middle of the woods. Also think were going to tell the loggers to leave all acorn trees. Were going to try to start a wildlife refuge around this huge set of woods and increase the deer population and hopefully get some nice genetics going through there. Just curious but it seems to me that more deer live in a thick young cutover than older woods? Thinking about planting peanuts down the paths through the woods and even in the fields. Any tips and suggestions will be beneficial . Just let me know what you would do please. Thanks

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Any tips on how to anchor in deer?

First thing I would do is contact your local Wildlife Agency. They should put you in contact with a Biologist who will survey your land, count deer, determine the Buck to Doe ratio and then tell you how many Deer your property can support for optimal herd health. They may even help you with a management plan to grow big bucks.
Here in Florida all of this is free, buy a donation is appreciated !!! Big smile
At any rate, the biggest problem with growing large antlered bucks are the sheer numbers of deer, mostly Does as they will eat everything and leave very little for the Bucks. A Big Mama Doe don't give a hoot about Big Daddy Buck when it comes to feeding and she WILL NOT give quarter to any deer, Buck or Doe when its feeding time.
Hope this helps some, Good Luck.

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As J said the Population control is one of the major factors in herd management. The IDEAL buck to doe ratio is 1 to 1 but hard to achieve. Also Learn how to judge a deers age by its body as a rack can be very decieving about age. One good thing to practice,ive found through experiance, is if you see a 4 year old buck with a puney Rack, i.e. a 6 point with 1 inch bases and only 4 inch tines, KILL IT DEAD,,,,Archery is a REALLY good tool for management practices as the season is in before the breeding season, therefore you take out the bucks you dont want breeding before time Thumbs up Also get as many does as you can out the herd. Generaly, on a property thats never been properly managed, there are WAY to many does and again as J said Does are what kills a herd. Sounds like you have a good setup and DEFINATLY follow what you said about leaving the Oak trees and Also Hickory. They are a prime food source for deer and if you have any White Oaks THATS where you are gonna want to set up when the acorns mass out. They are like chocolate to deer Yes Yes So to sum it up...Food Plots...Proper management...KILL ALOTTA DOES...And have FUN

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