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Any idea how big this bear is?

Been looking around for a good fall outfitter in Ontario. Seems the cost and success rates vary like the weather. Any suggestions? One outfitter seems to be on top of things and sent me a few photos. How big is this bear? The back is higher then a 65 gallon drum mounted ten inches above the ground the outfitter said. Also sent pics of bears that are bigger and past client harvested animals. Any educated guess would apprecated.

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Without seeing a photo there

Without seeing a photo there is really no way to judge. Perhaps that 65 gallon barrel in the photo that the guide sent you is really a 30 gallon one or smaller, who knows.

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I agree

I agree with Critter. Without seeing the photo you can't tell. Although, if the it is a 65 gallon drum and it is ten inches off the ground and the bear is taller, I would say it's a Kodiak! Big smile .

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Sorry. Im kinda new with this

Sorry. Im kinda new with this site. I hope the photo loads with this post this time. If i doesnt load you can check the photos out on the outfitters facebook page. Fatal Force Outfitters. Bears are just hard for me to judge. He has some great moose, whitetails, and mulies though.

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Welcome!

Welcome to the site. I've killed over a dozen bears and I still have to study them quite a bit before I take the shot. The one I killed this year came in three times before I shot him. I walked up to him and he still wasn't as big as I thought he was! Good luck Kevin

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Thanks Kevin.. The outfitter

Thanks Kevin.. The outfitter said you will know if its a shooter by its body language and there size. He said its unmistakable when one of the giants step out. You will know instantly. I have been talkin to others and they say those bears are giants. I did some research on the outfitter and he is a small company and has limited hunters each year. The location he told me is nothing were id thought of hunting bear in Ontatio. Isnt northern ontario better for bears? Im just not a rich man and have limited time and buget to just waste on a bogus hunt. Wish this could be easier. I dont mind spending the money if its what im paying for i get in return. The hunts not cheap for bear compared to other outfitters. Its almost double! But has 100% sighting or your money back or free hunt the next year. Has anyone hunted with him or seen the facebook page? Any insight would be greatly appreciated

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If you can wait?

I've been going to the same outfitter for over 10 years in Quebec. My friends and I book about 10-18 hunts a year with him. We all go up the last week in May and the first week in June. Every year we all kill bears including this past spring. Not one time since I've gone there has anynone ever gone home without a bear. The price for us is $1700 including tag, 1X1 guide that stays with you in the blind and lodging in brand new cabins on a beautiful lake. This is also a 100% kill or come back next year free, guarantee hunt. I have never seen him have to honor though. His web site is GBoutfitter.com. His web price is $2000 but if you go with us we get a discount because we bring so many hunters every year.

As for the outfitter you are contemplating going with, he is right in saying that you know a giant when you see them. I have never killed a giant, but have killed a half dozen bears #300 and over. One with over a 20" skull in Quebec. The problem is when a #325 bear comes in, he lookes like a 400 pounder. You shoot him and he's not the 400 pounder you wanted. One of the guys every year except last year and this past spring have killed a true #400 on the scale. This past year we killed some good ones in the #300-#356 range. Check out "were back from Quebec" on this forum and years past of posts I've made. Good luck and if you wanna join us next year Email me at kskayn@ymail.com Kevin

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Kevin, thats spring hunt

Kevin, thats spring hunt sounds great. I might take you up on that offer. Im gonna go on that hunt in Ontario this fall. Had people he had up before confirm what he has up there. Its sounds like a good hunt. Im going for $2750 canadian and its for whitetail, geese (limit of 10 per day), lake trout, and bear. I just cant see how its gonna be bad. The photos on his facebook page and his rwfernces is what sold me. I called one client and he told me if i shoot a small bear that the outfitter will likely not have me back. They only shoot predetermined bears from trail cameras. Last fall the outfitter book eight hunts and shot 4 bears over 450 and one that was 682 lbs. Client was deer hunting and shot the bear coming into a standing corn field. The outfitter said thats why the bears in his area are big. Most of the bears migrate towards the ag land in search of crops. Did you have a chance to see his facebook page? Would be intrested in your opinion.

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If you do good

If you do good, I guess I will have a place in Ontario to go! That sounds like a great deal for all the hunting opportunities you get. It's hard to find a good place that someone has actually hunted. In my opinion thats the best reference there is. Good luck and keep us posted on how you do, I would really like to check Ontario off "the bucket list". Kevin

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Well it was everything i

Well it was everything i could ever imagine and more. Ended up seeing a ton of bears and was lucky enough to arrow a 560 lb boar. Great bunch of guys and extremly organized. Only thing was they were near farm country. Felt like i was deer hunting. Sitting over standing corn and to see a bear step out was out of this world. Outfitter said thats why the bears in the area grow so big. They hsve all the food they would ever need. I was so impressed i rebooked for next year with the wife

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Photos Please

Congratulations on a bear of a hundred lifetimes!!! Would love to see some photos of camp and of course your bear!! Kevin

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