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Any elk buglers?

If I am hunting elk in the rut and I forgot to take along one of my calls, I hope it would be the bugle call. The cow call is the most important call to have on hand. The bugle call is much overrated. Use the bugle to locate the bull, if you haven't already, than put it in your pocket. Then use the cow call to bring him in. Overuse of the bugle is one of the biggest mistakes a hunter can do.

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Any elk buglers?

I think, I'll give the calling a try sometime. It would add a new dimension to the hunting. A hand held cow call sounds like a good place to start.

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Elk are differnet in all areas and times of year. I have found during the peak rut almost any bull will respond to a bugle and cow call. Like all the other people said there are lots of variables. I have called herd bulls with 14 cows within 75 yards he herded the whole harem to me using mostly bugling. Didnt get a shot because some bozo climbed up after us and spooked him. I shot a 5X6 bull 2 years ago the bugle saved me. It was before daylight there was about 80 elk everywhere 5 or more bulls bugling back and forth. I watched the herd the day before the opening day I snuck up to 70 yards or so with my rifle not knowing the cows were bedded 20 yards off spooked the heard,all of them ran.I bugled right after spooking them rembering that the bulls will stop to see whats upsure enough he turns broadside at 70 yards nice rack. I have called in 6 bulls at the same time with a bugle and cow call it was early aug. I would bugle then sit quietly and wait for a response didnt get one but 10 mins later im staring at 6 raghorns.The bugle got there attention then the cow call sweetend the deal.

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Bitmasher I just reread this whole post and I think I overstepped your question. You do not have to be super good with any bugle as I have heard bugles go from deep and raspy to broke up. They have different voices as humans. Now cow calls are pretty much similiar though. As long as you know what you are saying when the time comes to hunt them. But try the bugling in areas tht are draws when you are out and about. If you get a chance this year go out before daylight and bugle to see if you get any responses back. Go before rifle season and during if you have time. This to me is the best way to find out if you are doing it right.
Just some thoughts.
very informative responses from everyone on this post.

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Yes this is an informative thread. It seems that pretty much everybody agrees that a cow call is a good way to go, but a bugle can be effective, but spotty at times.

I hear you on the vocal difference on elk, Supersider. Younger bulls sound different than older bulls. The bulls probably know the difference and react differently to the vocal difference.

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Well what i am meaning and I think you have the idea of it is this. Not all elk sound perfect. Regardless of there age. My brother had been hunting with some friends and Doug in the group was using a bugle and my brother a cow call. well they called each other in. Next time my brother heard that call which was a off tone bugle he thought it was Doug so started heading that way cow calling. Well come to find out it was a 6x6 bull which he took. This is the bull he took.

Like I said before I go into units and just call in elk. I found one bull I followed him and found him drinking out of a stream. I was about 100 yds from him and I bugled at him. He raised his head and bugled with a mouth full of water. Sounded like he was gargaling. Was the funniest thing I have saw. I am just saying that bulls that are in a certain area learn each others voices like humans do. When a new one comes into the picture it kinda startles them. but if they know the voice then they know its ok. Dont go into a area and act like you are king kong. This is from my experience and I bet there are others out there that will disagree with me where they hunt.This is from my own experiences.Also when you are working some elk and you get them coming in and you get busted by a cow or a bull while you are cow calling. You here that alert call from a cow or the bull blows out of there do not move until they start moving and blow your own alert call right back at them as they will think that something other than another elk took off. this will let them know that you where a elk and they are just jumpy. they will in my opinion remember your cow calls as I explained earlier about knowing each others voices. Just wait a day or so to go back in. I have heard this aspect from a few friends that archery hunt them also.
Only thing is I don't want anyone to think I am a know it all. I am not as I am learning about them also. These are suggestions from areas I have hunt. So what has worked for me might not for you. Just something to think about.