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Has anyone every had a bad experience with a gun, Like a bear came at them and the gun didnt fire...Something similar or even a gun you really dislike?

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.303 British.

My neighbour gave it and a handful of shells to me because the original iron sights had fallen off, and since he owned several other rifles anyway he just wasn't using it anymore.

The only other rifle I had fired was a .22 and nobody prepared me at all for the difference in recoil/blast between a .22s and a high powered rifle. Ignorance is bliss so they say; Well, it's also painful. Off I went, proud as a peacock, out into the pasture to try my new rifle. I fired the 5 rounds sighting down the barrel like it was a shot-gun...OUCH!!! My ears rang for the rest of that night and it was over a week before I could move my arm without pain in my shoulder.

In those days my situation was much like yours Lever, and not having any cash I had to make do with what I had for a rifle. So I saved enough to mount a cheap scope and buy some ammo and off hunting with it I went. But every time I fired it whether at deer or a target the last thought I had in my brain before I squeezed was "This is gonna hurt!" Needless to say, my accuracy wasn't the best.

Even though I have since learned how to handle the recoil and to wear ear protection on the range, and in my head I know that the .303 is a fine calibre and readily available and affordable up here...to this day the thought of firing one still makes me flinch.

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PS - also heard a story about a guy who was charged by a black bear and emptied the mag of a 30/30 into it. The last shot did the trick at point blank range and about 10 inches from its head as it climbed up a tree after him.

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Ouch...My arm is hurting =)! I remember the first time I shot a shotgun. I was in Arazona on vactaion and we went skeet shooting. I was 9 or 10 years old and I could hardly lift the thing let alone aim it. But off I went, and as I pulled the trigger back I thought my shoulder came off.

Also, my dad was trying to aim, but he put his face a little to close so that when he fired, the stock/barrel(Cant remember) came and knocked his glasses off. ALmost hitting his nose.

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When I was in Montana occasionally folk from "back East" would ask how to tell the difference between a Black Bear and a Grizzly Bear. The standard tourist answer was to get one mad and climb a tree. If he comes up after you, it's a Black Bear. If he knocks the tree over, it's a Grizzly.

That made them think a bit more before walking out to try to get a picture standing next to the bear.

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Ex you're too nice...I'd have told them that if they really needed to know, just walk right up, slap them on the a** and ask the bear himself. If it killed you outright it was a Grizzly, if it took a couple minutes, it was a black bear.

But then again I'm a bit sadistic like that...I have been known to convince my city cousins to pee on the electric fence in our pasture and once told one enough (BS) horror stories about wolves and coyotes that she was terrified to leave our yard on her own.

But that's just me.

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Man thats mean! I accually know a guy that got attacked by 3 grizzlys. He was a very good friend of my parents. Me got his face torn apart but his partner saved him cause he shot the bear in the spine! SCARY

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Saskie, I like that one. I spent two summers working in Glacier National Park. Back then they used to sell T-shirts that had a cartoon of a bear standing next to a scoreboard that said "Grizzlies 6, Tourists 0." Of course, he had a 7 in his paw. I think the number is higher now.

Lever, neither one of us is out to make light of bear attacks. I've spent enough time in bear country to have a healthy respect for them. However, I don't have any respect for people that go on vacation and leave their brains at home. A tourist in Glacier asked one of my friends once how old deer have to get before they turn into elk. Another asked, "When do they bring the goats in?" He actually thought the NPS brought the mountain goats in for the summer, and then rounded them up again at the end of the season.

Unfortunately, many of these people take such ignorance too close to wildlife that has become too accustomed to human presence. I remember a case in Yellowstone where a woman wanted a photo of her husband next to a buffalo. She sent him out in the field to stand by one, and naturally he picked the biggest bull he could find. The bull was lying down, so the guy kicked it to get it to stand up for a better picture. The bull promptly gored him to death.

Granted, sometimes we can be a bit brusque when talking about such issues. But sometimes that approach makes the point faster with people. Bottom line with bears is that if you're balled up trying to remain calm while he's gnawing the flesh off the back of your noggin, it really doesn't matter which species it is.

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Those are some stupid people...kicking a bull...come on... I know what you mean I just thought it is mean to "Have fun" with the torrist.

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Ha! Pretty good thread. The antics of those whose only experience with wildlife comes in the form of hollywood are a never ending fountain of amusement.

When I was pretty young my family took a vacation to Yellowstone. On the trip out, there was a bull moose that was near the road and many people had stopped to gawk. One enterprising fellow decided this was a great photo-op so off he marched off the road towards the bull. I still remember the guy getting fairly close to the bull (perhaps 50 yards or less) and taking photos like it was bullwinkle. The whole scene was disturbingly silly. We drove off.

Later that day we heard over the radio, that a guy had been killed by a moose in the area we were in. Probably was the same guy.

Some people say you shouldn't laugh at this type of incident. To be sure, being attacked by any wild animal is no laughing matter. However the foolishness discussed above is so off the scale it is hard to keep a straight face.

As for bad gun experiences. Not much in my department, other than occasionally getting the eye-brow a little too close to the scope when pulling the trigger.

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In terms of bad gun experiences, my oldest son had a barrel burst on my Taurus .40 once. Don't know whether it was ammo or a headspace problem, but the head blew off the round and the chamber split open. It split the grip, but my son was unhurt (thankfully). LESSON: Always wear eye protection.

On a good note, though, Taurus lived up to their word and repaired the gun in short order -- free of charge and no questions asked.

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