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All the fuss of a flatter shooting rifle

When it comes right down to it, a 30-378 can reliably kill deer at much farther distances than a 300 Savage. It has way more energy and killing power at ANY distance! Maybe not everyone WANTS to just go with a 270 or 30-06; the fact of the matter is that magnum rounds outperform the standard rounds ballistically, regardless of how one interprets that or whether or not you need the extra performance.

As far as the WSM's go, they don't do anything the other magnums don't already do as well or better.

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No it can't. Someone has to aim and pull the trigger!

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Don Fischer wrote:
No it can't. Someone has to aim and pull the trigger!

Thats self explainitory i hope Thumbs up the 30-378 is described in the nosler reloading manual as follows, does any one need the 30-378 NO, but it will out perform and 300 in your rack,....... the reason people bash it is because it will out perform their 300 from the savage to the LAZZARONI.....you sight it in dead on at 300yrds and it is only 3" high at 200 drops less then 8" at 400. which means you can hold dead on from 100 to 400yrds and still make the shot. now that is asuming you have practiced this far and are willing to get closer instead of shooting this far and yes i have and yes i do but i have also needed to take a shot at 413.8 yrds and i made it there were 4 people there when i did it and that was from a range finder not walked or guessed at yardage. neener! now not to offened you but what can the 300 savage do that the 30/06 can't ? and can your 300 savage hold a 1" group at 300yrds with hand loads. like it was said before its all about choices, because if it wasnt then we would still be shooting the winchester 1895 in 30/30 or a 45/70 and we would all be happy Brick Wall,) . my 280 ackley improved will kill deer just as good i doubt a deer hit with a 300 savage, 30-378wby, or the 280 will notice the difference, but its the same reason i like a ford over dodge and chevy its choices man mine isnt what you would choose and i woundnt choose what you do, not matter what choice we make we are all shooters, hunters and should stick together, and not critize each other but i must digress.

300savage 180gr ballistic tip 2502fps mv.
300win. 180gr ballistic tip 3082fps mv.
30/06 180gr. ballistic tip 2872fps mv.
30-378wby 180gr ballistic tip 3264fps mv.

these are all from 15 feet in front of the muzzle from my chrono the savage is a relic of my dads he only shoots once a year and not at deer. Thumbs up

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It could be made so the rifle is motion-activated so when it senses the moving target, it is programmed to seek out the target and shoot it, so that way it's the animal tripping the weapon. Unfortunately, there might be some safety concerns about this.

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Captain_Obvious wrote:
It could be made so the rifle is motion-activated so when it senses the moving target, it is programmed to seek out the target and shoot it, so that way it's the animal tripping the weapon. Unfortunately, there might be some safety concerns about this.

lets not get the gov. involved in this lol jk.

i just get a little heated when someone tells me i should be shooting what they shoot cuz it works for them.(sorry guys and ladies). Big smile

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Seriously, the part about 1-inch groups at 300 yards, a 300 Savage could probably do it with a good load and a well-machined barrel. I own a 7mm Remington Magnum that has shot groups smaller than one inch at 200 yards, so it is probably capable. I saw a 280 Remington do the same thing with the same exact bullet (Sierra BT, 150 grains). Grouping is not about the cartridge used, that's more the barrel, the action, the loading, the weight and stability of the rifle, the trigger tension (heavy triggers can affect accuracy), not to mention the shooter.

As far as the Savage doing the same thing as the 30-378, no way. Big, BIG difference in performance whether it is necessary or not.

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Oh and if 1,000ftlbs is the bear minimum to kill an animal in north america then all the archery hunters and handgun hunters should sell their equipment and only shoot rifles, cuz wow, the .44mag is useless and so is anything else but a rifle Brick Wall,)

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Captain_Obvious wrote:
Seriously, the part about 1-inch groups at 300 yards, a 300 Savage could probably do it with a good load and a well-machined barrel. I own a 7mm Remington Magnum that has shot groups smaller than one inch at 200 yards, so it is probably capable. I saw a 280 Remington do the same thing with the same exact bullet (Sierra BT, 150 grains). Grouping is not about the cartridge used, that's more the barrel, the action, the loading, the weight and stability of the rifle, the trigger tension (heavy triggers can affect accuracy), not to mention the shooter.

As far as the Savage doing the same thing as the 30-378, no way. Big, BIG difference in performance whether it is necessary or not.

Thank you someone who finnaly gets it. , yeah. thank you captain.

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no need to get hostile boys holy fuck. just shoot what you like and dont worry about everyone else's guns Thumbs up

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Weatherby Scott
The 30-378 is a lot of round. We were discussing flat. I'm sure this round would be flat but even this round will end up with a rainbow trajectory at some point.
I like to set my rifles so the trajectory, at it's highest point, is at 3.5" above sight. If you were to set the 30-378 trajectory at 3.5" above sight, at the max of the trajectory. At what yardage would it be 3.5" below sight? That would be with a 180gr hunting bullet of your choice.

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