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There has been a lot of talk about tradition and passing it onto our children. Perhaps the reason we want to do this goes without saying, but let me add my thoughts on why it is important.

We, as parents, have to raise and nurture our children. We just can't have children, plop them in front of the TV and hope that they grow up to be successful, independent and responsible adults. To ensure this, or at least provide a better opportunity for it to happen, we have spend time with them, talk to them, and demonstrate through our actions the values we wish to impart to them. Hunting provides the perfect setting in which to do this.

Hunting teaches them responsiblity, independence, respect, patience and that immediate gratification doesn't always come or that it comes in many forms.

You may not harvest a deer, but did you enjoy the squirrel playing or the sunset? Take pleasure from these things. And, just knowing that you overcame the challenges of a hunt, the cold, the steep terrain, is a victory and teaches that you are strong. You have an inner strength that you can call upon when life gets tough - and it will.

Now this part may be controversial, but I think hunting also teaches them to be the predator and not the prey. Hunting hones your survival senses and makes you stronger.

Life is full of evil people who like to prey upon the weak. Like the animals they are, they can sense weakness and they can sense the strength of another predator. They will avoid the strong because they are cowards.

I don't force hunting on my daughter, but I provide her the opportunities to participate. It will create a bond between us and make her a better person.

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Hard to argue with that CVC. But I think hunting is the vessel, adults are the teachers.

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there's only one reason i hunt .i enjoy the outdoors ,getting away from the the rat race ,sitting around the campfire in the evenigs with my dog ,listining to the sounds of nature! if i take an animal at the end of the day thats a bonus or if i take an animal on the first morning i still stay the rest of my vacation enjoying the nature arround me and the time i spend at the camp ,driving arround on a ranch and shooting a buck that has a price tag hanging off it's rack has no appeal to me whatso ever like i said may as well call the butcher for a beef and say i'' be over in the morning to shoot it !

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I'm sorry, but shooting deer or any other game inside a fence is chicken-bleep and makes all hunters look like freddy fudd bozos.

Why anyone would want to do it, I will never understand.

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You said it CVC You said it.

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i say we put the people that run that thing in a fence and shoot them and then see how they like it

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kssticker wrote:
I'm sorry, but shooting deer or any other game inside a fence is chicken-bleep and makes all hunters look like freddy fudd bozos.

Chicken-bleep huh? So anyone who goes to Africa to hunt and shoots anything would fall into this category then right, because the majority of hunting in Africa is done inside a very large fenced area? Somehow I doubt you'd turn down the opportunity to go over there and hunt for a couple of weeks, but I could be wrong.

And what about the hunter that goes up to Newfoundland and hunts caribou during the migration-all you've got to be able to do is shoot a rifle with some decent accuracy, with most outfitters it's virtually guaranteed that you'll take one if you can shoot. Are those that do that "chicken-bleep" also?

What about the guy down here in the south that feeds the whitetail on his property year around with corn and food plots and walks into the woods any given weekend during the season and sees numerous deer? Are they "chicken-bleep" also?

It's funny how people are defining "fair" chase lately. It seems to me that anything legal that's going to add to your advantage during regular daylight hunting hours falls under the idea of 'fair". But that's just my opinion.

And by the way, Wldeerhunter, your comment is directly in line with what a lot of radical anti-hunting/anti-gun people out there say about all of us and a sport we all enjoy, so good job making yourself look like a liberal extremeist.

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Justify it to yourself however you like, but what you are doing is not hunting.

To answer your question, I have no desire to go to Africa or Nefoundland. What the heck even lives in Newfoundland?

Now if you are offering a trip to Alaska to fish or maybe Montana for elk, I'll take it.

As long as the fish aren't in a can and the elk are not in a pen.

You have obviously mad peace with yourself, but it still is not hunting.

like I said, if all I cared about was a couple of horns to put on the wall, then I might change my mind.

I would rather hunt for a month and never get a shot, then to kill a 6x6 in a pen. I don't expect you to understand because you obviously don't remember what hunting is.

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What lives in Newfoundland? That would be CARIBOU, as stated in my last post. Possibly the best place (in terms of success rates) to hunt migrating caribou actually.

Yeah I've made "peace" with myself for sure. And as stated earlier, I've got no need to justify any type of LEGAL hunting that I choose to do-anytime or anywhere.

By the way, what is hunting, in your humble opinion kssticker? Since you seem to believe I don't know what it is, let's hear it from you. And let's see if we can hear it without the stereotypical "shooting animals in a cage" arguement that the anti's like to bring up. Is it hunting where there are no fences.......I'd agree, and I also participate in that as well and spend many $ a year promoting that in my home state and throughout the country. Is that the ONLY type of legal hunting available to someone with the time and $ that's willing to spend it? I don't think so.

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Just because it is legal, does that also make it moral?

Hunting is the pursuit of game in a free chase setting. Hunting is spending time in the woods stalking, seeking and learning your chosen game. Hunting is getting up in the morning, heading to the woods and hoping you get a shot at your chosen game Hunting is not knowing that you will get a shot.

Hunting, at least the hunting that I love, has very little to do with killing.

You say for me to not bring up the "shooting animals in a cage " argument that the anti's use, but that is what it is. I am a loooooooong way away from an anti.

You are the example that anti's use when they speak to our children and to people that do not have an opinion.You sir , are the decision changer. People that do not have an opinion get one when they hear,

" I shot this beauty in a pen".

You say you don't care about the general public, but the general public is who writes new laws. The undecided are the people that get laws changed, the undecided are the people that shut down public ground. The undecided are the people that have a vote and use it.

I suspect however that you are wealthy enough that this doesn't bother you. You will be one of the few left hunting, atleast your form of hunting, when the rest of us have lost our rights.

Justify it how ever you like, but shooting animals in an enclosure is wrong.You sir are a killer, not a hunter. I hope that your purchased mounts make you proud.

Do whatever you like, as you have said it is legal. Just don't try to tell me it is hunting.

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