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The left hates the Iraq war. Too costly in casualties and money, but yet, strangely, they seem silent on the buildup in Afghanistan.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/19/us/politics/19military.html?ref=world

The unfolding saga in Afghanistan from pumping American troops and American dollars into a national force looks a lot like Iraq without the shock and awe invasion.

I'm constantly amazed that the Obama campaign and now the administration is able to pull off the idea that Iraq was wrong but the same costs in Afghanistan are right and the same costs in Iran would be wrong. In the case of both Iraq and Iran there was or is the potential for biological, chemical, or nuclear weapons in the hands of extremists. Afghanistan has extremists but is so poor the idea of wmd is unheard of.

In the same vein, I'm wondering what the administration will do if the Pakistani government should collapse (lots of extremists lots of known bad weapons). Will Obama authorize the use of troops to invade Pakistan and protect known nuclear sites? If troops are used will they be allowed to engage as combat soldiers with appropriate equipment or be handed another Somalia style scenario?

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I admit the Pakistani aspect is one I hadn't considered. Disturbing considering they haven't been real stable as of late. What will the Indian reactions be as they are a nuclear nation as well?

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The left in its simplistic view has convinced itself that everything's about one guy in Afghanistan, and that if we take him out the world can have a Coke together.

However, from a historical perspective we're far less likely to succeed in Afghanistan than we are in Iraq. Due to its terrain, fractures along ethnic lines, and culture Afghanistan has never been cohesive and conflict is in their DNA.

Pakistan has always been a greater worry. For years, its President has had to walk a fine line between extremists and moderates to hold the country together. What worries me is the ham-fisted way this administration handles things. He botched his meeting with Britain's PM and insulted him -- and Britain is our strongest ally. IMO, the Pakistan scenario would be handled badly -- either through a Somali scheme with inadequate troops inadequately armed and hampered by ROEs that get them killed, or else through a ridiculously ineffective UN. The bottom line is that an Islamist state with a nuclear weapon is definitely a plausible event.

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If we were really going to fight a war, wouldn't it be nice to fight it with the idea of actually winning it? I think the last time we actually fought a war to win it was WW II.

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Don wrote,

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If we were really going to fight a war, wouldn't it be nice to fight it with the idea of actually winning it?

Expat wrote,

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The bottom line is that an Islamist state with a nuclear weapon is definitely a plausible event.

Precisely!

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Let me save civetcat the time and say this for him,
"none of the 9/11 terrorist were Afghans'. Evil!

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