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Single Malt,

Can you tell me which outfitters you can get a package deal for $4200. I would really like to check them out.

I have read all the responses and find it very interesting, I do agree that we must be carefull not to spend a bucket full of money that we don't need to. But I would definitely not go with an outfitter just because they are the cheapest around, because you are then more then likely to get "cheap" service as well in my opinion.

I have hunted with the guys I got the prices from for the past 10 years and know that whatever they charge will be worth it. I am not saying they can charge anything and I will pay it, but simply that they will have market related prices and will not try to make a quick $, but actually deliver a service beter than expected with exceptional trophies.

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Hi there,
Yes, this can be done! Try Namibia instead of SA.
I have taken a Gemsbok, Impala, Springbok, and Blue Wildebeest. My total for the hunt was right around where your friend said. And all 4 animals are gold medal quality!
I'm actually going back next year in June 09. I'm planning on going for a kudu, a hartabeest, a waterbuck, and a warthog. Anybody interested in going? I'd really like to travel with another hunter. PM me if you are interested!

Mark

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I want to hunt Africa, don't care where really. I thought it would have been awesome to bag one of the big cats. I’ve spent the last little while researching web sites and prices, economics decrees the big five are off my list. I hurt a little but I'll survive, there are lots of real nice plains animals to choose from.

I'm not rich; I earn a respectable salary as a hydro electric technician. I’m fifty and plan to retire by sixty. If, I'm going to fund this adventure of a life time, I'd just as soon do it while I'm on working man's wages. I've found two websites that have caught my interest, African Sky Safaris around $6000.00, ten days, 1 Kudu, 1 Impala, 1 Warthog, and 1 Blue Wildebeest. The other was Hunter's Quest International, a Botswana 7 day hunt for around $6000.00- Plains Game Package Trophy fees for one Eland, Kudu, and Gemsbuck & Wildebeest Included per hunter.

Not counting the flights to get there I was not too scared of the cost. I could see myself adding a zebra or one or two of the larger deer or antelopes. The big thing for me is having something to brag about back home at the cabin. I don't mind the odd European mount but I sure would like to see a shoulder mount of a couple of these babies... What can I expect for trophy cost getting them home? I don't understand the term dipping. Let say I wanted a couple of shoulder mounts back home how does on get them there without spoiling. Or does the process have happen in Africa and then the long wait to get them back to me.

I think I have a grasp of most of the costs. Would this be a reasonable expectation?
Air fare from Canada around $3500.00
Hunt Package around $6000.00
Tips and gratuities $500.00 to $1000.00 I did see somewhere to check with outfitter to see if hard to get items locally may be brought instead of cash.
Then what, $1500.00 to ship trophies back to Canada?

What have I missed?

HydroDes

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$6K is a bit high for a 5 animal PG hunt, even if we're talking about 3 of them being bigger 'lopes.
On an 8 day PG trip with the owner being the PH tips for the camp staff needn't be more than $125 and that isn't being cheap...the Rand is traded at 7:1. If the PH is hired and you have seen he gavve a great effort regardless of killing game $50/day is plenty whereas $100/day on a DG is about right.
Dip & Pack means after your trophies have gotten basic field prep they are taken to a taxidermist whom has cut a deal with the safari company to get trophies...he then dips them in a solution to kill any bacteria befor Packing them for shipping. He'll invoice you for his service an likely for the shipping as well..shipping costs today can't be estimated on what they were last year ;cause of the hike in oil but I seriously doubt you'll get them D&P plus shipped to a importer for $1500 anymore PLUS you're going to pay the importer a % of the frieght costs plus several more tack ons for his service THEN you pay shipping to your taxidermist....YES!!! the getting your trophies to your taxidermist after the hunt can easily run you 1/2 of the PG package price....SOMETHING few agents will tell you when you hear them claim.."you can hunt RSA or Na for 10 day for less than an elk hunt to New Mexico"...sure you can if you leave your trophies behind an don't spend anything else.
Hunting Africa never was cheap..though the last few years with the USA being weak ...air fare costs, freight costs...AND the general costs involved it has taken a hit.
IF you make your trip you'll soon learn EVERYONE has a hand out waiting for YOUR cash an is planning on making a buck off of you...SADLY!!! they don't bother to hide that anymore.
I've been to several countries in Africa hunting several times an after my 2 most recent trips have been left feeling like I was bent over and holding my ankles...BUT OH BOY!!! the hunting and landscape is truly addicting.

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I don't really operate at the part of the market you're looking at but you might like to try my buddy Jaco Human at jacohu@mweb.co.za. Jaco is a very good PH, runs a good operation, is an honest man and will give you a fair deal. I can't remember his web address but I'm sure a quick google search on his name will find it for you.

Another option that might be well worth exploring is right in front of you and won't cost you a cent to investigate. The ads on the sides, top and bottom of the page are mostly hunting related so don't be afraid to click on 'em! Thumbs up

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Thanks for the info Single Malt

I’ve had a few of replies and they’ve very helpful. I’m fairly new to this message board stuff so it will take a little getting used to. Your last statement said it all. My ex-in-laws did three year tour of Zimbabwe for the same company I’m working for. I had just started working for this company when they went over, had I known then what my income potential was going to be I’d have borrowed the funds to take the four of us over there. At the time I thought it would be around twenty thousand which seemed like a pretty big sum in 1989. I have a few souvenirs from when they were there. I lost my more than my share in the divorce, now it’s time to get my own

With you answers and some of the other insights, I’ve starting to develop a plan. I still have lots of researching to do before I select an outfitter. I have thus far determined the quarry that I will seek out. They are as follows, Kudu, Baboon, Zebra, Giraffe, Impala, Warthog, Blesbuck, Gemsbok and Wildebeest. On average I tallied these animals to add up to $8,000.00 for trophy fees, plus or minus a few bucks. I think an average value for 1x1 PH at $275.00 per day for ten days $2,750.00. That’s something I’m not too sure about would a guy need ten days for the above list. Throw in $1,000.00 for misc items like tips, taxes, my firearm fees etc... Around $3,000.00 to get to there and another $2,500.00 for taxidermy fees and exporting. Then what I hope to see a, local taxidermy fee of around $3,000.00, add the whole carrot up, $20,000.00 plus or minus a grand. Ouch, ouch........Painful but surely worth the price of admission. I will start stashing my funds away, and start to carefully scrutinize the outfitters.

I like the sounds of a booking agent, are most reliable outfitters willing to go that route? All things said above do the PH fees and the trophy fees seem close. Also, with a list like the one above is it reasonable to ask an outfitter for a package price on I’ve selected above. What I’m getting at, since I’ve selected nine animals in total, maybe 15% of the list price as a bulk order. No offence intended I’m a product of my country and region; we always try to bargain on volume, that’s all.

HydroDes

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Thanks Shakari

I will check out your buddies web site and contact him if I can’t find it

HydroDes
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Always a pleasure to be of help. - If you can't get hold of him, send me an e-mail to my private address as shakari3@mweb.co.za and I'll call him and get his web address.............

Might I add one further small piece of advice? - If you do use an agent, make very sure you use a good one that has been in the business for some years and has an impeccable reputation.

All it takes nowadays for an agent to become an agent is one short visit to Africa and a quickly built website to represent his new found best friend in Africa and hey presto......... instant expert agent....... who probably doesn't even know which way is up.............. believe me, there's a lot of those types around nowadays. A good agent can be a great help - a bad one will do nothing but cause you endless problems.

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Africa for 3 thousand can be done

Look I have done it once and afterwards spent much more money each of the three trips. Contact Lammie at daretobowhunt.co.za he and his wife will quote you all in country costs including travel, food, drink, taking of animals, prep for taxidermist. They are honest no hidden costs. You need to find help getting firearms into South Africa and out. You need to be prepared to tip if happy with services. Check the costs of taxdermy work you may or may not want it done. You can get by with pictures. Email me if you have other questions I am a working stiff and did it four times.

Bill

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